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reck

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Ok, i have been off cycle of tren and prop for approx. one month and all is well. I was wondering if anyone had some information on when my nuts will come back to their natural size. One of my friends said it could take up to six months and I thought that seemed a bit long. Also when does your body start making it's own testosterone again after cycle. I heard that the bodies testosterone production shuts down pretty much completely when you are on cycle. Could someone help clarify this!
 
reck said:
Ok, i have been off cycle of tren and prop for approx. one month and all is well. I was wondering if anyone had some information on when my nuts will come back to their natural size. One of my friends said it could take up to six months and I thought that seemed a bit long. Also when does your body start making it's own testosterone again after cycle. I heard that the bodies testosterone production shuts down pretty much completely when you are on cycle. Could someone help clarify this!

What did you run for PCT (post cycle therapy)? Any HCG in there?
 
i ran an eq/test cycle for 17 weeks and i couldn't get any hcg but i ran arimidex/nolva throughout the cycle and for post. its now almost 4 weeks later after my last injection and my nuts are 3/4" the original size. I still have vascularity so i'm guessing the cycle is still in my system...next time, i'm running hcg..

but its typically 4-6 weeks.
 
reck said:
didn't use any PCT. only the tren and prop in my cycle. is that bad?
pct=post cycle therapy such as nolvadex ,clomid hcg the use of pct is to kick start your body, get balls back to size again and put them back to work. without pct nobody should ever run a cycle of anything, its more important then the cycle itself. read the threads on proper pct there are hundreds of em. my advice would be try and get some hcg and nolvadex asap
 
reck said:
didn't use any PCT. only the tren and prop in my cycle. is that bad?

Without PCT you can expect about 10 weeks to fully recover. It might be longer with tren in there; it elevates prolactin which inhibits testosterone production.

Right now it would be a real good idea for you to get your hands on some HCG and nolvadex. Then run:

HCG 1,000IU EOD for 3 weeks
Nolvadex 40mg/day for 6 weeks
 
Is it worth adding in Cabaser/Dostinex to combat the prolactin or would that be mostly irrelevant it this stage?
 
Blut Wump said:
Is it worth adding in Cabaser/Dostinex to combat the prolactin or would that be mostly irrelevant it this stage?

It certainly couldn't hurt. For dostinex you'd run 0.5mg EOD right along with the nolvadex.
 
reck said:
didn't use any PCT. only the tren and prop in my cycle. is that bad?

you better get on some PCT quick or else prepare to lose most of your gains, get fatter and feel all depressed and girly


im not kidding either

head over to the PCT forum and follow Jenetics PCT (HCG+Nolvadex)
 
Blut Wump said:
Is it worth adding in Cabaser/Dostinex to combat the prolactin or would that be mostly irrelevant it this stage?

Prolactin is preying on my alter...

Indeed.




DIV
 
Go to your doctor , tell them you fucked up and ran a cycle of roids with no HCG.

You think I'm joking, I am not.

Doctors obviously are not going to give you steriods unless you have hypogonadism but they will treat side affects of AAS

If yours will not get a new one, it's their job to treat you.
Find one near a college campus they know the score.
They see juice abuse every day.
 
bw1 said:
I think you now know the answer to this :)

I guess I do know the answer after reading some of the replies, but I didn't have any idea how important PCT was.
 
krishna said:
IMO a cycle isn't even worth doing unless you have PCT in place.

i am starting to realize that, but what are the benefits of using PCT and the drawbacks to not using PCT?
 
It is very necessary to restore and balance out your body's own hormone production in order to maintain gains and stop from crashing. If you don't do this, your body won't readjust until you've crashed. Think of it this way: While on gear, your on the high end of the spectrum. If you don't use PCT, your body will drop to the negative end of the spectrum which will cancel out everything you've gained while on. This can have adverse effects on gains, sex drive, mood, and energy levels to name a few.
 
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