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Turanabol

Excellent! I was just about to pop this question myself.
I can get my hands on 10mg tabs turanabol. I'm looking for keepable strengt gains, primarily. I was thinking about anavar, but this may very well change my mind. Is this teh shit for power?
 
bw1 said:
I've used it, good stuff. Strength gains came on quick

Would you mind quantifying your gains? :)
What do they compare to? Anavar? Or is it better? :D
And at what doseage?
 
I saw much greater strength gains with the turanabol than I did with anavar. The gains came quickly as well. I compare it to d-bol without the bloat. I cetainly plan on using it in my next cycle.
 
big moose said:
I saw much greater strength gains with the turanabol than I did with anavar. The gains came quickly as well. I compare it to d-bol without the bloat. I cetainly plan on using it in my next cycle.

1) was it as effective as dbol is in building muscle mass (assume comparison after the dbol water gets pissed away) ?

2) any hair problems (and are you predisposed)?

thanks
 
what kind of dosage did you use? did you stack it with anything? how about muscle gains...I assume less than D-bol w/o the bloating...
 
Would you ppl concider a price tag of 285$ for 225 10mg BD turanabols fair? I was quite amazed. Much cheaper than anavar at least.
 
big moose said:
I saw much greater strength gains with the turanabol than I did with anavar. The gains came quickly as well. I compare it to d-bol without the bloat. I cetainly plan on using it in my next cycle.


What he said
 
bw1 said:
What he said

same answer, same questions :)

1) was it as effective as dbol is in building muscle mass as well (assume comparison after the dbol water gets pissed away) ?

2) any hair problems (and are you predisposed)?

thanks
 
geoboy said:
same answer, same questions :)

1) was it as effective as dbol is in building muscle mass as well (assume comparison after the dbol water gets pissed away) ?

2) any hair problems (and are you predisposed)?

thanks
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KOArtist said:
Mookie-A fan of the G-man?? Nice! Also interested in any more opinions/etc. on turinabol. Any anti-E's necessary?


>>>> Anti-e is not needed since it won't convert to estrogen . So there is ZERO chance of gyno , water retention and fat gain related to high levels of estrogen.


Victor
 
Originally, I posted this to get some basic info on Turanabol...for my first cycle. I'm only using that for 7 weeks (only 20mg/day) for a start...it's my first exploration into using gear. How long should I wait in between cycles? For my next cycle, I was thinking about either Turanabol/Oxanabol or Turanabol/Methanabol...is it ok to use Turanabol again?? Or should I try something else? What about dosage? I want to keep it simple and oral only...I know, I'm a wuss...but I'm new to this (although I've been working out for a lot of years).
 
20mg ed? Is this enough to get some noticable gains?
Hos strong is this comp. ?
With a good diet and enough rest.

For those who have used it, how much did u use and did u use only tbol?
 
Not sure if 20mg/day is enough to get noticable gains...it's only been 3 days since I started, but I'll post my results here.
 
smaretick said:
Not sure if 20mg/day is enough to get noticable gains...it's only been 3 days since I started, but I'll post my results here.


Great.. !! The more often the better... Strength gains etc..
 
georgie24 said:
if bigmoose says its good, then his word is good enough for me..

now im really intersted in it
goergie finally came over and saw the light... right on man.. welcome. :)
 
I read that tbol cannot aromatize. Does this mean that nolvadex is unnecessary? What PCT is needed for a tbol-only cycle? :O
And then.. I'm ready to rock! :D
 
bottom line :

1 - It is liver toxic - 17 aa .
2 - It won't aromatize into estrogen so gyno , water retention and fat gain won't happen by any means
3- Since it doesn't aromatize no need to run nolva or a-dex , femara etc... at the same time .
4-It should give good strenght gains and good muscle gains . but don't expect fast and dramatic gains .


Victor
 
VictorBR said:
bottom line :

1 - It is liver toxic - 17 aa .
2 - It won't aromatize into estrogen so gyno , water retention and fat gain won't happen by any means
3- Since it doesn't aromatize no need to run nolva or a-dex , femara etc... at the same time .
4-It should give good strenght gains and good muscle gains . but don't expect fast and dramatic gains .


Victor

cool...thanx victor...now how long after the last oral administration do you start PCT?
 
I read an article on the chemical structure, comparing it to testosterone. Now, the closest thing then would be PHs like 1-test or even M1T, I guess. Both of which requires immidate PCT. So I'll start the day after I pop my last pill.

But that's just beeing safe rather than sorry. Do correct me if I'm wrong! :O
 
vio said:
I read an article on the chemical structure, comparing it to testosterone. Now, the closest thing then would be PHs like 1-test or even M1T, I guess. Both of which requires immidate PCT. So I'll start the day after I pop my last pill.

But that's just beeing safe rather than sorry. Do correct me if I'm wrong! :O

yeah...thats what i was guessing.
 
It is liver toxic - Jenpharm used to manufacture an OT & they pulled it in '94 due to a few incidences of serious liver damage in BB'ers who were using 100-200mg ED for extended periods...............But I suppose this applies to all orals tho so I think you should be fine for 6 weeks at 50mg or so........
 
Turanabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's. It has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of methandienone(dianabol) is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Turanabol is recommended in wasting diseases and HIV symptoms since it does not aromatize.
 
NORMA-MAN said:
Turanabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's. It has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of methandienone(dianabol) is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Turanabol is recommended in wasting diseases and HIV symptoms since it does not aromatize.

norma- where did this come from??
 
Turanabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's. It has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of methandienone(dianabol) is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Turanabol is recommended in wasting diseases and HIV symptoms since it does not aromatize.

norma- where did this come from??

It looks like part of the steroid.com profile - It's one of 2 or 3 profiles that keep getting posted! We need new info! Anyhow here's the rest of it.....(& another profile)


OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

0.4 x pound (body weight) x days = number of tablets to take overall during the interval of intake
mg / tablet


An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposi-tion, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dos-ages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is I 7-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.
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Here's another....

Oral Turinabol is an anabolic steroid developed and made famous by scientists in East Germany years ago. This is a more steroid of infamy actually, as it was one of the closely held secrets inside the East German Doping Machine. I am referring to a state sponsored doping program, called State Plan 14.25 that operated in East Germany for a period of time between the 1960`s and 1980`s.

Turanabol is a potent derivative of Dianabol. It is structurally a cross between methandrostenolone and clostebol (4-chlorotestosterone), having same base structure as Dianabol with the added 4-chloro alteration of clostebol. This makes Turanabol a kindelr gentler Dianabol, the new steroid displaying a much lower level of androgenic activity in comparison. Its anabolic activity is somewhat lower than that of Dianabol as well, but it does maintain a much favorable balance of anabolic to androgenic effect overall. This means that at any given level of muscle-building activity, Turanabol will be much less likely to produce he classic androgenic sides effects such as oily skin, acne, aggression and male-pattern hair loss (if genetically prone) than would Dianabol.

The 4-chloro attachment used with steroid also inhibits its ability to be aromatizes. Turanabol is therefore not going to present its user with unwanted estrogenic side effects like water retention, increased fat deposition or gynecomastia. While Dianabol tends to produce puffiness and a little fat retention in its users, which hides muscle definition, the exact opposite effect usually happens with Turanabol. Turanabol tends to ptomote gain in lean tissue mass, accompanied by an increased look of density, hardness and definition due to the intensified androgen to estrogen ratio. For bodybuilding purpose this makes Turanabol a great pre-contest or cutting steroid, not really a bulking agent of choice. Athletes in sports where speed tends to be a primary focus would also find favor in Turanabol, obtaining a strong anabolic benefit without having to carry around any extra water or fat weight. Although there is a clear relationship between Turanabol and Dianabol when it comes to molecular structure, ultimately it would be much more appropriate to be comparing the activities of this steroid to those of other mild, non aromatizing anabolics like Stanozolol, Oxandrolone or Priomobolan.
 
mass wise compare it to dbol? are they close. this is an important thread. i might run tbol with var instead of dbol.
 
Wootoom said:
mass wise compare it to dbol? are they close. this is an important thread. i might run tbol with var instead of dbol.
from what i've heard, the mass is not gonna be the same as dbol, but more permanent like var... dont know from experience though.
 
mass wise compare it to dbol? are they close. this is an important thread. i might run tbol with var instead of dbol.

supposedly it's like dbol, but without the bloat - so you'll see less overall gains cos you wont be carrying a load of water - but in terms of lean mass - supposed to be similar to dbol (or maybe a little less)
 
duke of earl said:
supposedly it's like dbol, but without the bloat - so you'll see less overall gains cos you wont be carrying a load of water - but in terms of lean mass - supposed to be similar to dbol (or maybe a little less)


>> Exactly . Very good post . It is suposed to be similar or a lil weaker in terms of MUSCLE GAIN ...I could CARE less about the water gain .. LOL


Victor
 
P.I said:
How's the Turanabol treating u smaretick?

Any gains or effects so far?

This is only my tenth day but the gains are minimal. So far, I just see a small weight gain (~5 lbs) and no strength gain...but I'm only on 20mg ED. I've tried to clean up my diet, so hopefully this will help down the road. I was expecting more significant gains since this is my first cycle. Apparently my body doesn't react drastically to such a low dosage of gear.
 
This is very interesting.....I'm currently running QV prop 100 mgs eod and was going to throw some winny in the mix but think I'll give Tbol a try! I won't run both winny and Tbol because they're both liver toxic.
What kind of half life does OT have? Is it better to split up a dose of 30-40 mgs a day or take it all at once?
 
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Finally I found a thread about t-bol!

To share some experience, I'm running 40mg/day of t-bol alone.... I've been running this dosage for four days now, and I've been through two workouts. Allready my pecs has become much harder, and are clearly changing into a better form. I'm not running any estrogen-blockers, and are not planning to use anything post-cycle.
T-bol has been verry satisfying so far, and I have not experienced any negative effects so far... But, its still early in cycle....
 
To share some experience, I'm running 40mg/day of t-bol alone.... I've been running this dosage for four days now

Nice one, but 4 days doesn't really tell us alot! I started on 50mg ED about 10 days ago - havent noticed much yet (maybe an extra lb or two), but I've got flu so it's hard to tell - will keep you posted.
 
duke of earl said:
Nice one, but 4 days doesn't really tell us alot! I started on 50mg ED about 10 days ago - havent noticed much yet (maybe an extra lb or two), but I've got flu so it's hard to tell - will keep you posted.

I'l keep updating this post about my progress, as I have promissed another user on this forum.... And well see...
 
Currently Running Test Enanthate (750mg/wk)/Dbol (40mg/d)/Eq (500mg/wk).

In 4-6 weeks, i'll be switching to Tbol in the place of the Dbol. I'll be running 60mg for 10-12 weeks using the Paper version.

I'll post comparisons if I can keep up the same eating and training regimine. If not, i'll just try to post up my experience with the compound itself and how I react to it.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
Currently Running Test Enanthate (750mg/wk)/Dbol (40mg/d)/Eq (500mg/wk).

In 4-6 weeks, i'll be switching to Tbol in the place of the Dbol. I'll be running 60mg for 10-12 weeks using the Paper version.

I'll post comparisons if I can keep up the same eating and training regimine. If not, i'll just try to post up my experience with the compound itself and how I react to it.

BMJ

That will be interesting, now it's three crash-test-dummies in the thread. You, me and Vio....
 
Have been on test + var for a couple of months - my gains had slowed right down (got ill) - I switched from the Var to Tbol 12 days ago & since then I've put on about 3lbs & I haven't even been training very hard as I've got the 'flu. (420mg Prop EW, 50mg Tbol ED)
 
Something strange is up. After 2 days, I'm beginning to get all hard.. downstairs (!). Uhm. And my right nipple itches, which is strange, considering tbols nature.
My goal is strength, not size, really.
Gonna keep you posted.
 
ok guys...anybody have any results to talk about yet? i'm still very interested on the new tbol craze thats going on. some of you guys should be a couple of weeks in by now. spread the wealth of knowledge.
 
turbogreek said:
ok guys...anybody have any results to talk about yet? i'm still very interested on the new tbol craze thats going on. some of you guys should be a couple of weeks in by now. spread the wealth of knowledge.

I am 3 1/2 weeks into my first cycle of tbol only. I started at 20mg ED & after 2 weeks went to 30 mg ED. The gains, although minimal, are there. I have noticed some strength gains in the gym (e.g., 10 lbs on the dumbell hammer curls & 35 lbs on the squat). The weight gain has been about 10 lbs and my body composition doesn't seem to have radically changed. All in all, I am happy with my gains but my expectations were higher (probably due to my ignorance). Because of my expectations, I'm not sure how much of my gains are psychological...but, gains are gain. I would definitely use tbol again. Hope this information helps. btw: I haven't noticed any sides...
 
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I've had them sides rolling in. The worst is my throath and tongue and them rashes.
However, I'm on 60mg ED. I'm not getting a boner all day long anymore, as these other guys apparantly do. However, my biceps has grown 1cm in one week. Which isn't bad at all. My chest is also up 1.5cm. I have gained no strength. Actually, I've lost some, but that's probably due to christmas and that my pumps are killing me. I'm one week in now.
Thinking about aborting. That allergic reaction is killing me.
 
I am 7 days into my 40mg/day of OT and 400mg/ week of Boldenone Ethanoate. I am very pleased with the results so far. My weight is up 2lbs and there is now a noticeable increase in my strength. No bloat to speak of.
 
In week 2 of 40mg day tbol, slightly oily hair but much less than dbol, it works real fast even faster than dbol. I got a feeling this stuff is gonna be amazing. No wonder the east germans kept it so secret.
 
hvywghtchamp said:
This is very interesting.....I'm currently running QV prop 100 mgs eod and was going to throw some winny in the mix but think I'll give Tbol a try! I won't run both winny and Tbol because they're both liver toxic.
What kind of half life does OT have? Is it better to split up a dose of 30-40 mgs a day or take it all at once?
Just dont stack QV products with BD products bro! They compete with each other in your body for your receptors! :) LOL
 
I am planning on 50 days i.e. 200 10mg tabs, running test whole time 4 to 6 hundred a week, adding EQ 400 week in about 1 week till end. Probably should run EQ longer but it is all I have this time and will see how it goes.
 
Well, so far a huge disappointment for me. It seems it causes allergic reactions like lightheadedness, allmost like being really drunk (mind you, I don't drink), and gives some serious rashes and swellings. No strength gains whatsoever tho. Very little size. I'd rather contribute that to muscle memory and bulk nutrition.

(If my english is off, it's because of that tbol. Man, I feel high as a kite. Really knox my sox off. I have problems walking if i do 50mg at once. But that's prolly the allergy. Will the allergy extend to winstrol and other orals?)
 
vio said:
Well, so far a huge disappointment for me. It seems it causes allergic reactions like lightheadedness, allmost like being really drunk (mind you, I don't drink), and gives some serious rashes and swellings. No strength gains whatsoever tho. Very little size. I'd rather contribute that to muscle memory and bulk nutrition.

(If my english is off, it's because of that tbol. Man, I feel high as a kite. Really knox my sox off. I have problems walking if i do 50mg at once. But that's prolly the allergy. Will the allergy extend to winstrol and other orals?)

And this is a perfect example of how hormones effect us all differently. I am fortunate :elephant: that I am responding so well to OT. Sorry to hear your not.
 
Sorry to hear about your sides, vio...

Especially as there were you who tipped me about t-bol, and as we have run this simultaniously.

I, on the other is in my 2nd week. I've put on about 10lbs or 3-4kg, my upper arms has gained 1,5cm, my brest has gained allmost 5cm....

And I'm starting to feel a excellent strength gain, I now have to run alot of cardio.. As my muscles can lift much more than my cardio and psyke can take....

This stuff works great... on me...
 
Does it cause MPB at all???

I've been trying to find this out for months & couldn't really get any info so I thought I'd just run it & see - It shouldn't be too bad in theory as it's not DHT based & can't be reduced by 5AR to a DHT metabolite. I've been running 50mg ED for 2 1/2 weeks & so far no shedding. (I'm running it with prop & dutasteride)
 
My allergic reaction seems kinda stable now. My tongue is dark red on one half and white on the other. Kinda creepy, but not painful. The worst side is that my throath bloats up, and that I feel dizzy and really drunk for a few hours after ingestion. It's like a bottle of good ole vodka. However, some results have occured the first week (day 6 really):
My biceps are up 1.5cm, chest 3cm, thighs 2cm, weight up just about 3kgs (6.5 pounds).
I'm on 50mg ED now, 30 in the morning and 20 before sleepytime. Eating like a horse too. Going pure HST with base-excersises like squats, bench press, dead lifts.. I haven't gained any strength yet tho, which was the purpose of this.
I'm concidering to break the cycle, or switch to winstrol early tho. Not because it's not working, mind you, but because of the sides.
 
My biceps are up 2,5cm, chest 5cm, weight up just about 7kg(15pounds) and my fat-prosentage has lowered allmost 2%..
 
well...from what i see it's not like dbol. lots of mixed reviews on turanabol. at least with dbol everybody knows what it's gonna do. the results are usually the same...people love it and everybody grows with dbol. i think i'm gonna do the dbol/var cycle instead (low dose dbol/higher dose var) and run it for a while. that should be interesting being that i've never done dbol...cant wait.
 
turbogreek said:
well...from what i see it's not like dbol. lots of mixed reviews on turanabol. at least with dbol everybody knows what it's gonna do. the results are usually the same...people love it and everybody grows with dbol. i think i'm gonna do the dbol/var cycle instead (low dose dbol/higher dose var) and run it for a while. that should be interesting being that i've never done dbol...cant wait.

I love it. OT is by far the best oral I have ever taken. I am getting very strong and lean. No acne, no bloat. I know that everyone is different, just my take.
 
4 days ago I added 50mg winny ED to the mix. Now I'm gaining like crazy. 5kgs up on my 10-rep bench press in 4 days. And climbing.
 
Man, I have been reading your threads on this and I cannot believe that you are still taking it. First, have you verified that what you are taking is real? I have never heard of rashes and throat problems from orals before. Second - did you have bloodwork done before you started this cycle, and after you started having the reactions? How do you know if you are OK??

I would stop taking it - NOW, run PCT, get some bloodwork, and find another compound to use in the future. What is happening to you is NOT normal!!
 
I`d post my results.... This stuff is amazing... I switched from Naposim to Turanabol at 150mg a day, strange thing my strength it still growing! I made 280kilos dead lift for 3 reps today. its 620lbs or so. I`m getting stronger and stronger and all the water I had on dbol is coming off... I love this shit.
 
Retabolil2 said:
I`d post my results.... This stuff is amazing... I switched from Naposim to Turanabol at 150mg a day, strange thing my strength it still growing! I made 280kilos dead lift for 3 reps today. its 620lbs or so. I`m getting stronger and stronger and all the water I had on dbol is coming off... I love this shit.

I am with you Ret; I am currently on 60mg/day and also am loving this shit. This Friday will be 2 weeks and my strength and size have gone up noticeably.
 
Have been pleasantly surprised so far (50mg Tbol + 70mg Prop ED) - strength is up a little even though I've been ill, as far as weight goes it's held steady (I'm cutting) and BF has dropped. (about 3 weeks in)
 
Retabolil2 said:
I`d post my results.... This stuff is amazing... I switched from Naposim to Turanabol at 150mg a day, strange thing my strength it still growing! I made 280kilos dead lift for 3 reps today. its 620lbs or so. I`m getting stronger and stronger and all the water I had on dbol is coming off... I love this shit.

Damn ret.. And I thought taking 100mg of Turanabol + 30mg dbols ED is high dosage. You take 150mg. Well shit.. I only bought 500 today from a very reputable source ;) I may bump to 150mg Turanabols what do you think? Eheheh.. I would have gone with just Dbols, but the thing is that I'm very gyno sensitive (even with Aromasin!) and dbols is number 1 gyno bringer. Plus, I hate dbol bloat. So that's why I decided I may go with 100mg Turanabol along with light dose of 25-30mg dbols ED. Best of both worlds don't you think?
 
terrapin, somehow my sides have disappeared.
I know the stuff is real, as it is from the same lot as johnrambos (whom have grown 18pounds in less than 3 weeks now).
It doesn't make me gain all that much, that's true, but at least it makes me recover in 1/4 of the usual time. Now I can do my HST with 50% increased volume, and still don't feel a bit sore when I wake up the next morning.
The last 4 days I'm up 5kgs on my working set bench press. Prolly the winstrol. So I'll switch anyways.
 
vio said:
terrapin, somehow my sides have disappeared.
I know the stuff is real, as it is from the same lot as johnrambos (whom have grown 18pounds in less than 3 weeks now).
It doesn't make me gain all that much, that's true, but at least it makes me recover in 1/4 of the usual time. Now I can do my HST with 50% increased volume, and still don't feel a bit sore when I wake up the next morning.
The last 4 days I'm up 5kgs on my working set bench press. Prolly the winstrol. So I'll switch anyways.

I am glad to hear your sides are gone - very odd. Good luck with the rest of your cycle and PLEASE get bloodwork done at the end to check your liver enzyme levels. Peace.

Terrapin
 
I've experienced a good gain in both strength and mass, on 40mg/day.

But I upped the dose to 60mg/day then my nose started bleeding regularly every day probably because of the high blood pressure that tbol can cause...

I have aborted the cycle, becouse i brooke my hand and can't lift weights for one month....

But I have allready prepared a hard comeback 4 weeks from now...

I'm going to finish the t-bol together with winstrol... And gradualy start using dbol/winstrol for a period before I begin ripping myself for the summer.....
 
junk said:
Damn ret.. And I thought taking 100mg of Turanabol + 30mg dbols ED is high dosage. You take 150mg. Well shit.. I only bought 500 today from a very reputable source ;) I may bump to 150mg Turanabols what do you think? Eheheh.. I would have gone with just Dbols, but the thing is that I'm very gyno sensitive (even with Aromasin!) and dbols is number 1 gyno bringer. Plus, I hate dbol bloat. So that's why I decided I may go with 100mg Turanabol along with light dose of 25-30mg dbols ED. Best of both worlds don't you think?
DONT STACK IT WITH DBOL BRO! BETTER RUN IT ALONE OR WITH WINNY! It doesnt aromatize so gyno is not an issue and I like it! I got rid of all the water I had from dbol! I believe that oxandrolone is garbage compared to tbol! You can easilly bump your dosage to 150mg a day. Naposim at 120mg a day was a better mass builder of course but I hate dbol bloat too :) anyways I believe you can start your cycles with dbol and then continue with tbol as it gives less sides and doesnt aromatize.
 
Retabolil2 said:
DONT STACK IT WITH DBOL BRO! BETTER RUN IT ALONE OR WITH WINNY! It doesnt aromatize so gyno is not an issue and I like it! I got rid of all the water I had from dbol! I believe that oxandrolone is garbage compared to tbol! You can easilly bump your dosage to 150mg a day. Naposim at 120mg a day was a better mass builder of course but I hate dbol bloat too :) anyways I believe you can start your cycles with dbol and then continue with tbol as it gives less sides and doesnt aromatize.

You pop 24 Naposims a day?
Damn i'm glad i'm not your liver.
 
twinker said:
You pop 24 Naposims a day?
Damn i'm glad i'm not your liver.
Yes I popped that many two weeks ago. ALso I did 150mg of russian liver killer for 3months non stop 4 years ago :) Still alive and in good condition! :)
 
I might get bashed here but I compare TBOL with M1T they seem to work about the same, No bloat, lots of strength works pretty quick well M1T at low dosages around 20mg work awesome except the sides!!!. The Sides are insane from M1T but as far results I like it better then DBOL now I just need to try TBOL in next cycle. I just cant wait till some UG labs start making some TBOL
 
ericahls said:
I love it. OT is by far the best oral I have ever taken. I am getting very strong and lean. No acne, no bloat. I know that everyone is different, just my take.


Interesting....how many mg's you on?
How many cycles have you run?
U on anyting else?

thanx
 
Whacked said:
Interesting....how many mg's you on?
How many cycles have you run?
U on anyting else?

thanx
Currently on 60 mg / day with 400mg/week of Eq.
I have run 10 cycles in as many years.
 
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