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Ttokkyo new products update

Slopain

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50mg Primo Tabs should be here within a week or two (really).

The injectable will be 100mg 10ml soon after.

They will be following that up with:
Test prop at 100mg/ml 10ml
Test Suspension at 100mg/ml
Test Enanthate (prob at 200mg/ml)


As for pricing, The tabs will be expensive but relatively cheap, I forgot the # but it sounds high until you figure the price per mg. Both the primos will be cheaper than the pharmaceutical grade (in mexico), I believe the 100mg 10ml primo will be around $70 or so (give or take $10).

The T susp will be VERY cheap in comparison to everything out right now in mexico.

They also will be releasing a 50mg/ml version of their Injectable Winny b/c basically everyone else has one. I cant recall pricing or if they are micronized or not (I hope it is).


Packaging:
The old dog on the bottles/packaging will be nixed, and new packaging with UPDATES on a website listing pictures of products as well as LOT #'s and Exp Dates which will deter counterfits.

Just a heads up peeps.
 
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Thanks, I'm looking forward to the primo......
 
Was wondering if prop+primo would be could. See at least one person has the same idea. Would it be similar to an EQ+prop cycle which i've don also.
 
As a heads up to newbies, I suggest searching both here and other forums for posts regarding products from both TTokkyo and EyePee.

There should be sufficient postings of experiences and allegations of supposed lab tests, to ask yourself "do I want to roll the dice and be cheap."

Many people claim great results from both lines of product. However, keep in mind that an EXTREMELY possible occurance is that a person takes for example Anavar that is really Winstrol and they don't notice the difference, especially when it's part of a stack.

I'm sure there are people on both sides that stand to gain from making up lies. Myself I have nothing to gain when I say that 300-600 mg TTokkyo Deca 300 did NOTHING for me while training and eating properly.
 
xonic2xonic said:
As a heads up to newbies, I suggest searching both here and other forums for posts regarding products from both TTokkyo and EyePee.

There should be sufficient postings of experiences and allegations of supposed lab tests, to ask yourself "do I want to roll the dice and be cheap."

Many people claim great results from both lines of product. However, keep in mind that an EXTREMELY possible occurance is that a person takes for example Anavar that is really Winstrol and they don't notice the difference, especially when it's part of a stack.

I'm sure there are people on both sides that stand to gain from making up lies. Myself I have nothing to gain when I say that 300-600 mg TTokkyo Deca 300 did NOTHING for me while training and eating properly.
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Bullshit! If you had legit Ttokkyo deca you would have seen results. If you have nothing to gain quit posting heresay bullshit about reputible products. BRO!:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
slingblade said:


Bullshit! If you had legit Ttokkyo deca you would have seen results. If you have nothing to gain quit posting heresay bullshit about reputible products. BRO!:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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I suppose I am full of shit too because I gained NOTHING of
TT deca last summer? And this ain't heresay bullshit either! If Slingblade don't like TTdeca that's his opinion. I just happen to
share the same opinion. Maybe it was an isolated incident. I
did like their Anavar though.
g
 
gUiLe said:


I suppose I am full of shit too because I gained NOTHING of
TT deca last summer? And this ain't heresay bullshit either! If Slingblade don't like TTdeca that's his opinion. I just happen to
share the same opinion. Maybe it was an isolated incident. I
did like their Anavar though.
g
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Actually, Slingblade was backing Ttokkyo.
 
Hungry1 said:


Actually, Slingblade was backing Ttokkyo.
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Thanks Hungry 1, I was backing Ttokkyo and will continue to. This Xonic2Xonic goes onto every thread about Ttokkyo and bashes them, warning everyone that their products are shit. But yet he claims he has nothing to gain by slandering Ttokkyo. Thats why I said BULLSHIT!
 
xonic2xonic said:
Slingblade what about other peoples posts and other boards?

I also said some people have reported great results.
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We've already had our debate on this issue. I'm sticking to my guns. I have never gotten a bad product from Ttokkyo, not even the deca. Actually I just started some of their deca, eq and winny on this past monday. If the shit is bad which it won't be i'll be the first to say that you were right. I don't want to get into another pissing match over this, it would be pointless. The reason I did in the past is because you said, "FUCK TTOKKYO AND EVERYONE THAT SAYS THEIR PRODUCTS ARE GOOD" Well I take offense to a statement like that because their products are good ad I am one of those people that say so.
 
Slopain said:
50mg Primo Tabs should be here within a week or two (really).

The injectable will be 100mg 10ml soon after.

They will be following that up with:
Test prop at 100mg/ml 10ml
Test Suspension at 100mg/ml
Test Enanthate (prob at 200mg/ml)
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Where did you got that from? I spoke with them a week ago and they do are going to realese Primo and Enan but they didn't know what else could they develope next.
 
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Bicho said:


Where did you got that from? I spoke with them a week ago and they do are going to realese Primo and Enan but they didn't know what else could they develope next.
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If slopain says something about Ttokkyo you can prettymuch take it to the bank.
 
Yup slingblade, I admit that comment I made initially was well out of order.

I was really frustrated because I had waited several months reading everything about TT, all good stuff. Then a few months after I took the plunge, I start reading all these complaints about underdosing, no ingredient, abcessces etc. Then with near perfect diet and training I get close to 0 results.

This post got made a sticky, thats why I feel an obligation to fellow buyers to throw in my opinion and draw attention to the fact that there are quite a few people dis-satisfied, including sources and mods on this board.

Once again, I am not saying that all TT is crap, but it seems like there have at least been some bad lots.

As far as fakes, bro, I don't know where you get your info from. There are likely NO GOOD fakes of TT product (with holograms and seals.) TT spends to much with these high tech security features and just to make sure they switch packaging regularly. TT reps themselve acknowledge that there are "no known quality fakes at this time."

So SB, I appologize if I made this a personal attack on you, that is not my intention. I am happy for you that you have always had good experiences with TT gear.

BTW do you also stand strong by I* ?
 
There are confirmed fakes of the deca. This is not up for debate, they can be differentiated but they do look pretty similiar, search a back post on this I and others describe them if you get your gear from a mex pharmacy you might have gotten fake tt deca if you go to a vet down there your safe.

I am just giving the heads up, if you dont like the products good enough then dont use them. They are an extremely populaur company and outsell every other brand down in Mexico, but everyone has their preferences - if you dont like it thats ok, but no need to bash it. BTW thanks to whoever stuck it - Im kind of weird about sticking my own posts. :)

Expect the timelines of the new products (except the primo) to be a few months down the line, the Stanol V will be soon as its already SAGAR registered at a higher dosage.
 
[So SB, I appologize if I made this a personal attack on you, that is not my intention. I am happy for you that you have always had good experiences with TT gear.

BTW do you also stand strong by I* ? [/B][/QUOTE]


Apology accepted. I have no personal experience with *P. i've heard many people say it's great and many say it's shit. I prefer to stay with Ttokkyo, denkall, Tornell etc. because I don't have any doubt that they're good. at least the ones that i've gotten.
 
Has anyone heard of a 1000 pill bottle of anavar from them (5mg). My source says he might have it this weekend? I haven't seen or heard of it. Am I just out of the loop?
 
Slopain, from what I can makeout, nothing has come out as far as fakes with all these features present:

a) "TTokkyo" Logo hologram

b) Raised lot/exp box stamp

c) Shrink wrap a specific way

d) Imprint on bottom of vial

e) TTokkyo cap


Anyway, to be honest, if everyone was raving about a particular TT product, the price was right, and I felt OK taking a risk on results, I might even buy again! It makes almost no sense for me to think it's all crap, to many people say not.
 
I have had good luck with most gear, but have been really disappointed in primo, I used 400mg per week for 10 weeks with 800mg per week of t-400

Yes I grew and increased in strength, but I attribute my gains to the test, still wondering if the primo had any affect?

Maybe with new ttokkyo primo will try again.
 
The primo should have had a hardening effect for you. However, there are a HUGE number of fake primos around. I haven't seen the alleged fake new style, but have seen varieties of the clear and brown ones. What did you have?
 
solidspine said:
I have had good luck with most gear, but have been really disappointed in primo, I used 400mg per week for 10 weeks with 800mg per week of t-400

Yes I grew and increased in strength, but I attribute my gains to the test, still wondering if the primo had any affect?

Maybe with new ttokkyo primo will try again.
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Try it with a low dose of fina or eq then you'll definately know if it works for you. This is what I had to do because I stacked it with T200 the first time I took it for some strange reason....but when I took it with 75mg EOD of fina wham that was a great stack.
 
27 lbs on a ttokkyo sust/pink d cycle....musta been the dbol rite? wonder y i didnt lose the 5-7 lbs of water weight when i was done with the dbol...musta been a mind over matter thing...
 
Hey xonic2, no need to back away from your reservations about Tt products so quickly. You are entitled to your opinion, and there has been good reason to be skeptical in the past. (maybe ok now).
I've used steroids for nearly 3 decades, and nothing has ever put lumps on my ass or caused such agregious soreness as that friggin cyp product.
Sure, the stuff is effective, but so are a lot of test blends that don't employ excessive benz. alcohol to compensate for higher bacteria levels.
 
Thanks! Thats a relatively minor complaint though.

This whole business is pretty frustrating:

a) Good sources go bad

b) Fully "backed" labs/ug get "allegations" of putting out shit or worse

c) Very good fakes of human grade

d) Bullshit (ie. person stacks 3 different things including primo say and gets good results therefore claims all the gear was good, when it is too hard to tell for most people.

e) "Bump" type references from people who probably haven't even done the shit.

Right now I'm a week into "spanish" anavar, trying to do some cutting. I can't make a definate "yay" or "nay" comment yet, I wish I had some more experiences from people.
 
Gee...I come on the board 2 months ago and say TT has been faked and everyone jumps on me.Who was the first to say that TT was changing the bottles and packaging...uhhh ME!!! I post-its because I know what I'm talking about.TT just spent all the $$ to change labels for no reasons ,right?? Gimme a break

J
this is a multi BILLION dollar industry-NOTHING cannot be faked..NOTHING
 
I still don't believe it could be faked that perfectly. Are credit cards with holograms faked? How about currency with holograms? I think those would be worth more $.

The reason people did/do not believe you is that you don't present any info to back yourself with. AND you are pretty much the ONLY one touting this.

Also, didn't you claim stolen/backdoor vials as opposed to faked?

The changing of labels etc., man this always happens. There may well be poor quality fakes around and that change helps eliminate that too.

One more thing, claiming possible counterfeits or something even more subtle, sure would be a good way to explain bad products don't you think!

P.S. Please don't take this difference of opinion personally.
 
xonic2xonic said:
I still don't believe it could be faked that perfectly. Are credit cards with holograms faked? How about currency with holograms? I think those would be worth more $.

The reason people did/do not believe you is that you don't present any info to back yourself with. AND you are pretty much the ONLY one touting this.

Also, didn't you claim stolen/backdoor vials as opposed to faked?

The changing of labels etc., man this always happens. There may well be poor quality fakes around and that change helps eliminate that too.

One more thing, claiming possible counterfeits or something even more subtle, sure would be a good way to explain bad products don't you think!

P.S. Please don't take this difference of opinion personally.
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No problem-I can't say anything more because that would be letting too much be known and some people would lose lots of $$ as well as possible legal (police) ramifications. Lets put it this way:I think I add a lot of good info to this board.I DO KNOW some people that are very important in this field...That gets me info before 99% of other people.I love TT-BUT it has been faked..and YES it is by a competitor!!! I knew about 6 months ago about the 10,000+ bottles of fake TT K that was being shipped to the US.I know most people don't use K -but if you buy,say 1000 bottles at 25.00..thats 25,000 of fake shit-Thats my point.It sucks to get fake shit,but it REALLY sucks to lose 10,000 or more on fake shit!!!

J
 
Interesting.

A few more questions/observations:

a) Why do you care if money is lost over you disclosing information? Is this fear of being threatened?

b) Do you think/know that a VARIETY of product range were faked or just implied because K allegedly was?

c) Complaints go back beyond 6 monts ago!

d) Do you think that TT would admit this?

e) I do not believe Holograms can be perfectly faked. They may look very similar, but the manufacturer should be able to tell the difference. I wander if TT would check a sticker? I wander if you have an extra legit one you could send out?


Thanks!
 
Oh boy
The whole TT line has been faked-PERIOD! TT would never admit this to the public,but some of the reps have. The game is not what it was 5 or 10 yrs ago.Most of the people involved on a major scale are not BBers.they are drug cartels-ok??

J
 
1Mistake said:
Oh boy
The whole TT line has been faked-PERIOD! TT would never admit this to the public,but some of the reps have. The game is not what it was 5 or 10 yrs ago.Most of the people involved on a major scale are not BBers.they are drug cartels-ok??

J
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Huh?
You're telling me that a drug cartel is going to bother faking Mexican vet AS to make a small profit rather than just pooling their resources to sell more narcotics which have a 10x greater markup?
 
DocJ said:


Huh?
You're telling me that a drug cartel is going to bother faking Mexican vet AS to make a small profit rather than just pooling their resources to sell more narcotics which have a 10x greater markup?
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NO-but what I'm saying is that the cartels smuggle HUGE amounts of gear over the border-Same with the Russian crime families.A COMPANY is faking TT -not the drug cartels.Do you think the Mexicans make cocaine?? They get it into the US..Listen I can't even say anymore...just do what ever you guys want

oh yeah-no money in gear ,right OMG I could makes hundreds of thousands per month from Mex with juice& K
 
Man,
I live on the Border (tx - Mex), and I know that there are not huge a.s. shipments going across, because not one of these is ever in the paper being seized. Coke, heroin and allot of pot, but not any a.s. The only time I read about a.s. busts is when some dumb ass tries to walk across with to much gets busted and he ends up being associated with the local high school or college. If there were huge shipments of AS going across, then some of them would get caught, it is the law of averages. It just seems that the markup and the money is in the drugs, they are also easier to package, smuggle, and transport than a.s. I think that most of the a.s. that comes across the border is with guys like us that are bringing it across for themselves, and maybe a little extra to suppliment their income or pay for their cycle.

C-
 
so how do you tell?

1Mistake, just curious if you do know how to tell the diff between the fakes and the reals. I'm not trying to be part of the grudge match, but I am curious so I know what to look out for. thanx.
 
why is the TT bottle sealant in English??

I don't want to fuel the fire about TT fakes, because I do think the trouble taken to replicate the packaging isn't worth it compared to other drugs. But I do wonder if TTokkyo products are Mexican and everything about them is written in Spanish....then why is the little bottle sealant protector written in English? -- "SEALED for YOUR PROTECTION".
Shouldn't it say instead: "SELLADO para SU PROTECCIÓN"

I have noticed this about the Ox and D-Bol.

I also wondered if TTokkyo isn't just some subsidary company of a larger pharma company like Merck or Upjohn. Though it would probably never be admitted, I'd just be curious if they were funded by a US-back company. I mean that is how US companies actually sell their products into Cuba, through overseas subsidary companies. Shit, I just gotten way off the subject thread...sorry.
 
Re: so how do you tell?

ichabodcrane said:
1Mistake, just curious if you do know how to tell the diff between the fakes and the reals. I'm not trying to be part of the grudge match, but I am curious so I know what to look out for. thanx.
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To be honest its hard to tell. The K is fairly easy because the label of the fakes suck and the bottom of the bottle is plain.The other products are made much better.Stick with the new logo if you can get it.They changed it to decipher the real TT from the fakes.
J
also...if any of you think that only "hard " drugs are brought in by drug cartels and organized crime then you have NO clue
 
The new labels arent out and I think you guys are blowing it of proportion a little. Like the guy above said the DECA IS THE ONLY ANABOLIC thats faked and if you got a good source that doesnt buy it from a pharmacy your ok - the k was faked but it was a joke, the deca is faked but 90% chance you got the real thing even if you dont know shit, and if you know a thing or two its pretty easy to tell the difference. Ttokkyo is a lab thats been around for over 10 years, they just got onto the anabolic scene a year ago, no need to get conspiracy theory with it guys, it is what it is.
 
I hope they bring out masteron or parabolan that would be F**king amazing and i would love them for it!!!!!!
 
Slopain said:
The new labels arent out and I think you guys are blowing it of proportion a little. Like the guy above said the DECA IS THE ONLY ANABOLIC thats faked and if you got a good source that doesnt buy it from a pharmacy your ok - the k was faked but it was a joke, the deca is faked but 90% chance you got the real thing even if you dont know shit, and if you know a thing or two its pretty easy to tell the difference. Ttokkyo is a lab thats been around for over 10 years, they just got onto the anabolic scene a year ago, no need to get conspiracy theory with it guys, it is what it is.
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Slopain- I hear ya...all I was trying to say is that getting TT is not 100% that you have a legit product.I know for a fact that fakes are being produced by ....a "new " Mexican company..it is a business tactic
J
 
If someone was to bash denkell, mods on here have no problem with that

If someone was to bash brovel or tornel, mods let it go but will stand by there products

Bash any other product made in the world besides Ttokkyo(including human gear) and mods have no problem with it

Why can someone or anyone on this board bash any human product or any other product other then ttokkyo and most have no problem with it but touch these products in the neg. way and get flamed to all hell???...I believe it was slopain that stated if you don't have anything good to say about ttokkyo, keep it to yourself---What the fuck is that ---

I personally like ttokkyo products and blow up from them, so I don't have anything negitive to say about them--however-I know a guy(at my gym) that is a top 15 super heavy National compt---that laughs at me for using Ttokkyo's products and says he won't touch them again with a ten foot pole---

If someone has negitive comments about ttokkyo or any other products then so be it----Let them fly----and let us (the people that make up this board take it for what it is)

I want to hear all opinions good or bad about ANY products---that is what makes a board more knowledgable. Not letting people give the opinion about products(or in this case ttokkyo) that they have used is not helping anyone.....And is suspect at best---
 
1Mistake said:


Slopain- I hear ya...all I was trying to say is that getting TT is not 100% that you have a legit product.I know for a fact that fakes are being produced by ....a "new " Mexican company..it is a business tactic
J
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We can can back and forth with what I know and what you know. Its just words. I do know whos counterfitting it, so does ttokkyo - its not a competiting company really, its one guy (with obviously paying a lab) TT has tried to sue the guy, the mexican govt is conveniently "looking for the guy to stop him" in reality the guy paid off some officials and they will never "find" him even though he aint hard to find. Getting TT FROM A TJ VET IS 100% AS THE VETS ALL GET THEM FROM ONE SUPPLIER, ITS THE PHARMS THAT ARE DISTRIBUTING THEM. Feel free to email me, sometimes its not always smart to say everything you know on a board read by 30 thousand people a day or however many do it. I know alot of people on the board that know alot, they dont need to show that they know alot. Im not flaming at all, just letting you know that most of the "net-vets" get there info from some guy in a vet or a call to mex that doesnt know anything. Other guys know their info from the right people, everyone thinks the info they get is 100% obviously.

Wombat: Im not sure who flames denkall. If you like denkall use it. I have never seen anyone flame denkall other than critiscize their pricing and business practices of mud slinging and getting reps to bash good products. Their products are fine, I don't know why youd get defensive nothing in this thread mentions them unless I missed it. And btw every company gets bashed daily on this board pretty much, the good ones and the shitty ones. I think the problems are when people have agendas, and bash products they know are good ones, it happens and thats when people flame, b/c they are spreading misinformation. Anyways not trying to flame just spreadin my 1 and a half pesos. :)
 
I just through Denkell out there----All I'm saying is if someone doesn't like the results from ttokkyo and they say so on here, they get flamed to hell and back-----Hell the ttokkyo anadrol has been out for awhile now and I've only heard of maybe two people that actually liked it-----Some say it tested out at 53mgs but where are all the people praising it----53mgs and people should be blowing up and that is just not the case...With that said, if one of there products is suspect, then all can be suspect in my opinion....However I still won't bash them because I have had good results with some of there products. I do however want to hear other peoples results---good and bad---and when someone has bad results from there product--take it for what its worth without the bashing...As it stands right now, people that are having suspect results from ttokkyo's products will not or will tend not to post there results because they know they will be getting bashed from every direction... But I do agree with you that there might be some people that have a vested interest in bashing there products--but these people are not hard to figure out and can be taking with a grain of salt....peace
 
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