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Hey xonic2, no need to back away from your reservations about Tt products so quickly. You are entitled to your opinion, and there has been good reason to be skeptical in the past. (maybe ok now).
I've used steroids for nearly 3 decades, and nothing has ever put lumps on my ass or caused such agregious soreness as that friggin cyp product.
Sure, the stuff is effective, but so are a lot of test blends that don't employ excessive benz. alcohol to compensate for higher bacteria levels.
 
Thanks! Thats a relatively minor complaint though.

This whole business is pretty frustrating:

a) Good sources go bad

b) Fully "backed" labs/ug get "allegations" of putting out shit or worse

c) Very good fakes of human grade

d) Bullshit (ie. person stacks 3 different things including primo say and gets good results therefore claims all the gear was good, when it is too hard to tell for most people.

e) "Bump" type references from people who probably haven't even done the shit.

Right now I'm a week into "spanish" anavar, trying to do some cutting. I can't make a definate "yay" or "nay" comment yet, I wish I had some more experiences from people.
 
Gee...I come on the board 2 months ago and say TT has been faked and everyone jumps on me.Who was the first to say that TT was changing the bottles and packaging...uhhh ME!!! I post-its because I know what I'm talking about.TT just spent all the $$ to change labels for no reasons ,right?? Gimme a break

J
this is a multi BILLION dollar industry-NOTHING cannot be faked..NOTHING
 
I still don't believe it could be faked that perfectly. Are credit cards with holograms faked? How about currency with holograms? I think those would be worth more $.

The reason people did/do not believe you is that you don't present any info to back yourself with. AND you are pretty much the ONLY one touting this.

Also, didn't you claim stolen/backdoor vials as opposed to faked?

The changing of labels etc., man this always happens. There may well be poor quality fakes around and that change helps eliminate that too.

One more thing, claiming possible counterfeits or something even more subtle, sure would be a good way to explain bad products don't you think!

P.S. Please don't take this difference of opinion personally.
 
xonic2xonic said:
I still don't believe it could be faked that perfectly. Are credit cards with holograms faked? How about currency with holograms? I think those would be worth more $.

The reason people did/do not believe you is that you don't present any info to back yourself with. AND you are pretty much the ONLY one touting this.

Also, didn't you claim stolen/backdoor vials as opposed to faked?

The changing of labels etc., man this always happens. There may well be poor quality fakes around and that change helps eliminate that too.

One more thing, claiming possible counterfeits or something even more subtle, sure would be a good way to explain bad products don't you think!

P.S. Please don't take this difference of opinion personally.

No problem-I can't say anything more because that would be letting too much be known and some people would lose lots of $$ as well as possible legal (police) ramifications. Lets put it this way:I think I add a lot of good info to this board.I DO KNOW some people that are very important in this field...That gets me info before 99% of other people.I love TT-BUT it has been faked..and YES it is by a competitor!!! I knew about 6 months ago about the 10,000+ bottles of fake TT K that was being shipped to the US.I know most people don't use K -but if you buy,say 1000 bottles at 25.00..thats 25,000 of fake shit-Thats my point.It sucks to get fake shit,but it REALLY sucks to lose 10,000 or more on fake shit!!!

J
 
Interesting.

A few more questions/observations:

a) Why do you care if money is lost over you disclosing information? Is this fear of being threatened?

b) Do you think/know that a VARIETY of product range were faked or just implied because K allegedly was?

c) Complaints go back beyond 6 monts ago!

d) Do you think that TT would admit this?

e) I do not believe Holograms can be perfectly faked. They may look very similar, but the manufacturer should be able to tell the difference. I wander if TT would check a sticker? I wander if you have an extra legit one you could send out?


Thanks!
 
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