TTokkyo EQ is really mexican jumping bean sterones?!?!?

[Frackal]

Kidding,

But seriously, I have seen a couple threads on here in the past few weeks regarding impurites in ttokkyo EQ and their products in general, and now this anavar/gyno thing - I did a search but did not really find anything comprehensive about it.

So this thread is asking everyone the question of whether or not ttokkyo is slipping in it's product quality, I would have emailed several mods and vets (huck, slopain, etc..) but I thought this would just be quicker.

I'm planning my next cycle and I WAS going to use TT 200mg EQ which is of course totally awesome but now I'm not sure so wtf...only Quality Vet makes 200mg EQ besides TT right?

 

[jakeH2]

im currently running ttokkyo eq and testenon 250.....no complaints here......not exactly sure where all these rumors and talk originated from, but there has definetly been a lot of talk about questioning there current status.........so just to let u know from my current expierence im quite content with the way things are going!!!!!

 

[Frackal]

I've used their deca and dbols in the past and was quite pleased with both though I had not alot to really base it on, I do know the dbols kicked my fucking ass though

 

[jakeH2]

I GOT THE PINKIES TOO FROM THEM.....IM RUNNING THEM AT 40MG ED......JUST ENTERD MY THIRD WEEK AND HAVE TO SAY IVE PUT ON SOME NOTICEBLE WEIGHT, JUST HOPE IT KEEPS ON COMING!!!!! ITS MY FIRST "REAL" CYCLE AND IM VERY PLEASED......400MG EQ, 500MG SUST/ PER WEEK, AND THE DBOL 40MG ED......ALL TTOKKYO, SO HOPEFULLY THE MEXICAN JUMPING BEANS WILL DO ME RIGHT!!!!

 

[Golfer18--old]

BUMP

 

[spentagn]

The lab reports I've seen on QV look really good. And I imagine their quality will be top notch at first atleast to break into the market. I'd jump on em while they're new.

 

[Ulter]

I have posted this 3-4 times already but, YES TTOKKYO IS HAVING QUALITY CONTROL PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW!!!
The people posting that they haven't had any problems in the past probably didn't but things have changed and in the last few weeks. There have been numerous complaints about Ttokkyo. So use it at your own risk.

These threads are on this board right now and they are only the surface.

http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=26225
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=78415

WWW.ANABOLICFITNESS.NET

 

[Frackal]

Ulter would you suggest Quality Vet as a good alternative?

 

[ajc]

I hope the shitstains at Ttokkyo read this so they know why they're gonna go out of business. I'm considering emailing them.

 

[macDbol]

well that sucks

 

[ajc]

I have to say that I've only heard bad things about their test products, so when my bottle of TTokkyo Deca comes in, you can bet your ass that I'll be shooting away with no hesitation.

 

[Daeo]

Awww fuck. I have some Ttokkyo EQ on the way. Maybe mine will be a good batch. This just goes to say what I've always said about vet products. You never know...

 

[amaritto]

Awww fuck. I have some Ttokkyo EQ on the way. Maybe mine will be a good batch. This just goes to say what I've always said about vet products. You never know...

I am in the same boat u r. Hopefully this shit is good.

 

[ajc]

We need to start making our own "Elite Fitness Painless" brand gear. lol

 

[Slopain]

The gear is good, the stinging from some of the earlier versions of the test are nothing new - the abcess and infections rumours are nothing more than that - rumours - probably started by paranoid newbies who dont know the difference between sustanon prop pain, abcess pain, infections, and just too much BA content. The gear is high quality and the EQ and the Deca and all the other products except the tests arent uncomfortable and are properly dosed.

 

[amaritto]

THANK YOU SLOPAIN.

 

[Freak Show]

I don't mean to bust this thread up Frack, but i don't think anyone will truly be satisfied becuz there are way too many conflicting opinions. ALthough, I do trust Slopain's advice.

Hey amaritto, how's that monster cycle going? Did you start yet?

 

[amaritto]

Hey amaritto, how's that monster cycle going? Did you start yet?

Hey Freak -

I am waiting on my EQ and Arimidex, but it should be here by next monday. And then I am going to start.

I changed it around a little.

800mg TT CYP for 10 weeks
600mg TT EQ for 12 weeks
40mg Naposim D-bol ed for 4 weeks
100mg Winny ed for the last 6 weeks
.25mg ed of Arimidex

Shots on M, W, F.

R u on or starting soon??

 

[Slopain]

I don't mean to bust this thread up Frack, but i don't think anyone will truly be satisfied becuz there are way too many conflicting opinions. ALthough, I do trust Slopain's advice.

Hey amaritto, how's that monster cycle going? Did you start yet?

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that with the introduction of new competitors into the market of which ttokkyo has been #1 selling (that doesnt happen by accident in under a year of its introduction) that these RUMORS surface? The marketplace will determine - not these internet boards fellas - the same marketplace that had Ttokkyo dethrone Denkall ( a good product itself) in less than a year - if Company XYZ was #1 right now the rumors would be about Company XYZ. Its not a big deal, just business as usual with the other competitors trying to take the top spot (in a very un-noble way). Read the past threads about QualityVet and see the tactics that were used before I kindly let the promoter know a more beneficial way to promote his product without giving it a immediete black eye.

Im not muddslinging and it doesnt really matter whats in these threads - just use your heads and read between the lines fellas.

 

[Maxx Out]

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that with the introduction of new competitors into the market of which ttokkyo has been #1 selling (that doesnt happen by accident in under a year of its introduction) that these RUMORS surface? The marketplace will determine - not these internet boards fellas - the same marketplace that had Ttokkyo dethrone Denkall ( a good product itself) in less than a year - if Company XYZ was #1 right now the rumors would be about Company XYZ. Its not a big deal, just business as usual with the other competitors trying to take the top spot (in a very un-noble way). Read the past threads about QualityVet and see the tactics that were used before I kindly let the promoter know a more beneficial way to promote his product without giving it a immediete black eye.

Im not muddslinging and it doesnt really matter whats in these threads - just use your heads and read between the lines fellas.

I agree 100% Slopain.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I hear what you're saying Slo, and I've never had a bad experience w/ Ttokkyo either (granted, I haven't used any of their products for 8 mos or so...), but why would rumors about the anavar come up? QV doesn't even make anavar... why would Conan, along with others, say they got gyno from the anavar. I want to believe in Ttokkyo, but fuck, I'm buying the anavar for my wife -- it's got to be what it says it is -- a woman's system can really get fucked up where a guy might slide by...

 

[str8cubano]

LIke what they said on Manny's post, maybe there are a lot of fakes going around....

 

[Slopain]

I hear what you're saying Slo, and I've never had a bad experience w/ Ttokkyo either (granted, I haven't used any of their products for 8 mos or so...), but why would rumors about the anavar come up? QV doesn't even make anavar... why would Conan, along with others, say they got gyno from the anavar. I want to believe in Ttokkyo, but fuck, I'm buying the anavar for my wife -- it's got to be what it says it is -- a woman's system can really get fucked up where a guy might slide by...

Do you think that Qualityvet wont - if they make it past a year, come out with Anavar? If I put down a certain product, whether in direct competition or not, then the whole company's rep will suffer. Now most people make their opinions based on real life experience (you said yours was good) not on what some person on the internet who you have zero proof is telling the truth has to say. What Im saying is be aware of whats going on, don't be led and use your own head with your own experiences and of those that you know and trust, not people on the internet who are notorious for not being 100% honest (talking about the internet personas in general not people on this board) I mean look at all the Olympia worthy contenders we have on this board alone.

 

[Freak Show]

Hey Freak -


R u on or starting soon??

I may sound like a sissy, but that cycle is huge by my standards! I'm hopin to start a deca/winny cycle soon, if I decide on companies and prices that are in my range. I hate waiting, but i can't afford to throw too much my VERY hard earned money around on a cycle. Since Slopain mentioned QUALITYVET, that reminds me of the deal I can get on em and am debating on whether or not to make myself a guinea pig. Wish I knew people with more personal experience on their products. I may just bite and be a pioneer! LOL!

 

[amaritto]

I may sound like a sissy, but that cycle is huge by my standards! I'm hopin to start a deca/winny cycle soon, if I decide on companies and prices that are in my range. I hate waiting, but i can't afford to throw too much my VERY hard earned money around on a cycle. Since Slopain mentioned QUALITYVET, that reminds me of the deal I can get on em and am debating on whether or not to make myself a guinea pig. Wish I knew people with more personal experience on their products. I may just bite and be a pioneer! LOL!

Not a sissy, maybe just smarter. I agree about throwing money away, but I heard all good things about TT until I fucking made my order. But I agree with and trust Slopain and a few others so I am still going to try them.

I too can get some decent deals on QV, so they may be one of my next ventures.

 

[Freak Show]

: But I agree with and trust Slopain and a few others so I am still going to try them.

Me too but I influence easy . Oh well. Only one way to find out right? We'll see.........

 

[Ulter]

Rumors my ass. They are not rumors Slopain. Stop soft pedaling this as the competitors spreading rumors. I am not a competitor, Iron God is not a competitor, MAXX is not a competitor, Mr N is not a competitor, AJC is not a competitor. But they are people who have gotten sick, have injections sites get to so painful they can’t walk, and don’t want any part of Ttokkyo cyp. You’re really pissing me off. What do you need a house to fall on you to figure out that something is wrong? These are not newbies and they are not using older or previous batches. Now you’ve got these guys thinking it all bullshit. What are you going to do when they start posting that they can’t finish their cycles because of the pain? Are you going to add all of them to the list of Ttokkyo competitors too?

 

[Slopain]

Rumors my ass. They are not rumors Slopain. Stop soft pedaling this as the competitors spreading rumors. I am not a competitor, Iron God is not a competitor, MAXX is not a competitor, Mr N is not a competitor, AJC is not a competitor. But they are people who have gotten sick, have injections sites get to so painful they can’t walk, and don’t want any part of Ttokkyo cyp. You’re really pissing me off. What do you need a house to fall on you to figure out that something is wrong? These are not newbies and they are not using older or previous batches. Now you’ve got these guys thinking it all bullshit. What are you going to do when they start posting that they can’t finish their cycles because of the pain? Are you going to add all of them to the list of Ttokkyo competitors too?

Im really pissing you off? lol uhoh

The cyp200 especially the earlier batches have higher than average BA content - is it dangerous in any form: no. In fact in and of itself that will guarentee no infections, so the cyp is no where near dirty. Its not near as bad as not being able to walk, I have taken shots when they first came out when the BA content was at its highest and even then it was an annoying slightly worse than prop pain. Once again you offer subjective info (most of which is a very tight click on the Anabolic Fitness board), I can make a list of HUNDREDS of users (un-related) on this board that have used and loved it and Ttokkyo products including the cyp

"Now you got these guys thinking.."

Please Ulter, I have told people to use their brains, and not be led like sheep, I have always talked facts, just because I oppose your opinion you seem to get personally offended, well don't -in order to get to the REAL TRUTH you need to debate without letting EGO or personality get in the way.

 

[ajc]

Slo, you of all people should know that I have absolutely nothing to gain by saying Ttokkyo's test products are producing horrible pain. A friend of mine GAVE me two bottles of it because it hurts so bad.

 

[Ulter]

Telling you that your statements are pissing me off was not intended to be a threat. It is just a fact. It pisses me off when someone puts their own well being and livelyhood over the members of the boards.
The people in the threads I posted link to are not even members at AF so it's not a small clique it is widespread.
I don't need to say anything else. You are on record as telling everyone that it's safe to use Ttokko's cyp. Now you deal with the consequences of your statements when the posts start.

 

[BGMARC1]

have used all tt products old and new...all fine by me ..on them right now,even the cyp..its all good for me. if u r not happy with them sorry but i am.. my opnion o and i will be doin more of them as long as i can.

 

[Slopain]

Telling you that your statements are pissing me off was not intended to be a threat. It is just a fact. It pisses me off when someone puts their own well being and livelyhood over the members of the boards.
The people in the threads I posted link to are not even members at AF so it's not a small clique it is widespread.
I don't need to say anything else. You are on record as telling everyone that it's safe to use Ttokko's cyp. Now you deal with the consequences of your statements when the posts start.

Those posts saif that the shots hurt. Wonderfull. Great. The cyp200 shots hurt. Where is the new information that supposedly has a different ttokkyo company at the helms (sp) than the previous one that got nothing but rave reviews? This isn't a new thing - we have known that the Cyp has a high BA content which causes pain - NOT infections or abcess's. You dont want the pain you mix it with your other AS's or you bake it until its trully fixed.

Is this the only problem with Ttokkyo products? That the cyp200 is painfull?

I will gladly deal with the consequences of my statements because they are all based in fact. Ttokkyo products are of high quality, you may experience pain if you inject only cyp200 in one shot in higher ml's.

Also I used the quote about me pissing you off as a note to your ego (in a friendly way) not to intend that you threaten me, I feel no threats from you - Id rather keep the debate impartial though and implying that the facts I repeat are pissing you off indicated that you aren't looking at this with an open mind.

 

[ajc]

Please Ulter, I have told people to use their brains, and not be led like sheep, I have always talked facts, just because I oppose your opinion you seem to get personally offended, well don't -in order to get to the REAL TRUTH you need to debate without letting EGO or personality get in the way.

Not to be the devil's advocate, but the REAL TRUTH is that this Ttokkyo cyp that I received less than 2 weeks ago is causing some major pain, swelling, and worst of all flu symptoms.

I'm the last one on this board that'll believe hype. I have to try things myself to make a decision. I thought surely that the cyp out there now would be pain free, but I sure as hell learned different.

 

[Slopain]

Not to be the devil's advocate, but the REAL TRUTH is that this Ttokkyo cyp that I received less than 2 weeks ago is causing some major pain, swelling, and worst of all flu symptoms.

I'm the last one on this board that'll believe hype. I have to try things myself to make a decision. I thought surely that the cyp out there now would be pain free, but I sure as hell learned different.

Ok I think we have confirmed that the cyp hurts and is great to grow on lol I think Im in the twilight zone. btw hope all is well with you AJC havent spoke to you in a while..

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Not to be the devil's advocate, but the REAL TRUTH is that this Ttokkyo cyp that I received less than 2 weeks ago is causing some major pain, swelling, and worst of all flu symptoms.

I'm the last one on this board that'll believe hype. I have to try things myself to make a decision. I thought surely that the cyp out there now would be pain free, but I sure as hell learned different.

The flu symptoms are normal are they not? Test-flu... I've used non-Ttokkyo cyp before and got test flu... Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I don't think that's outside of the norm... The pain and swelling sounds bad, but could be attributed to high BA and necrosis like Slo said... Cyp hasn't been painful for me before so I don't know...

 

[ajc]

Ok I think we have confirmed that the cyp hurts and is great to grow on lol I think Im in the twilight zone. btw hope all is well with you AJC havent spoke to you in a while..

All is good... Except for one thing...gear takes a long time to get now that the terrorists fucked everything up. lol

I think I'm gonna try baking that shit tonight so I don't miss my shot tomorrow. I need to gain 20 lbs. really really bad. I'm trying to avoid using T-200 at all costs.

 

[ajc]

The flu symptoms are normal are they not? Test-flu... I've used non-Ttokkyo cyp before and got test flu... Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I don't think that's outside of the norm... The pain and swelling sounds bad, but could be attributed to high BA and necrosis like Slo said... Cyp hasn't been painful for me before so I don't know...

I've used Sten before which is 75mg Cyp/25mg Prop and it didn't hurt at all. I also didn't have any flu symptoms. I've also used shitloads of sustanon with no flu symptoms. So, it's definitely not normal for me.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I've used Sten before which is 75mg Cyp/25mg Prop and it didn't hurt at all. I also didn't have any flu symptoms. I've also used shitloads of sustanon with no flu symptoms. So, it's definitely not normal for me.

dunno man... test flu is normal for me, wish I never got it... that's why I hate taking it... hope it works out OK for you...

 

[ajc]

dunno man... test flu is normal for me, wish I never got it... that's why I hate taking it... hope it works out OK for you...

I do too. What I really hope is that I can fix this Ttokkyo cyp to where it's not as painful and doesn't make me feel as shitty. I've got a couple of bottles that I planned to use and a few more on the way...this could be a very loooooong 10-12 weeks.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I do too. What I really hope is that I can fix this Ttokkyo cyp to where it's not as painful and doesn't make me feel as shitty. I've got a couple of bottles that I planned to use and a few more on the way...this could be a very loooooong 10-12 weeks.

Have you seen that post that Andy did on removal of BA from oil?

 

[THeMaCHinE]

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=49404

 

[ajc]

Thanks bro...I'm looking it up now.

 

[Frackal]

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[Your_Moms_Kneepads]

Guys. Have you ever thought of taking the label off. Sticking a 18g-22g pin in the top of the stopper on a bottle of the cyp and boiling it? I managed to do that with some of the dirtiest gear on the planet (Brovel and IP's suspension and cyp) and had NO problems.
How about T400? It feels like getting shot in the ass with a crossbow but nowbody is making a fuss about that are they?
BTW getting gyno from TT anavar is going to be IMPOSSIBLE. Firstly who is going to be able to fake the tablet with scoring and the "T" imprint along with the baggie, bag of dessicant, and the imprinted bottle? Its not going to happen. What the fuck could have been in them? The only other orals they make are dbol and anadrol. There going to put 50mg of anadrol in a 5mg anavar?
I personally would use Primoteston or Tornels T200 and not make an issue of it.

 

[M Laredo]

I have used the ttokkyo eq in the past with no painful injection sites, but results from past were better when using ultragan eq.
Just started cycle of Ttokkyo cyp lot #041 injected 2cc in left glute and 48 hrs later I have a cantelope stuck in my ass. I emailed ttokyo and they said it was from the BA content and to heat up bottle in microwave for 30 seconds before injecting. These would reduce BA content and shot would not be so painful.

WTF???????