Tryin' to lose weight, stick with the Thermo's or try Winny?

[Road Weazel]

Greetings! Total newbie over here
I'm 38 and just re-enlisted in the military (Nat'l Guard). I want to get stronger and bigger, and have been. I'm hitting the gym 4 to 5 times a week and have leaned down and gained some mass. Now for the real bitch. I need to run for the military and my knees are killing me. I'm 5' 11" and 197 pounds on a decent size frame. I figure if I can lose another 15 pounds through changing the workout and science I'll be a little easier on the knees.
I'm taking suppliments right now which include Tribulus, DHEA, Glucosomine, Hyaluronic Acid, MSM, Yohimbe and have ordered up some S.A.M. Tight to replace my Stackers.
I plan to hit the gym harder than ever and continue the suppliments but:
Would Winny would help me to lose the extra pounds quickly?
Winni-V ("cyclostanozol") is total crap, and is to be avoided, correct?
Would it be worth trouble of an 8 hour round trip to Mexico? It would be a real PITA to do but I need to do everything I can to pass this running test.
Thanx in advance.

 

[buffalo]

I'd use trex with clen to lose the weight as long as diet and cardio are already in place. Steroids do not burn fat so no stick with the diet pills.

 

[Road Weazel]

OK, after some research Clen looks like a good choice. The 2000 USA Olympic team probably knows a thing or two about running and keeping lean. Can anyone else weigh in on this before I go shopping? I hate making two trips...
Thanx for all the input.

 

[H_T_]

Winny has helped keep my size. it's not a fat burner. harden you up, it will........

 

[Road Weazel]

I was just reading another thread (and one earlier today) saying that Winny was a little hard on the joints, especially the knees. That's the body part I'm trying to help. Perhaps Winny ain't for me.
I need to be lighter and I've got a few pounds of pudge that I can burn off. The title, I believe, shows my ignorance.
Please keep the ideas coming, I need to place an order soon and get started.
Thanx.

 

[cobra108]

Eat less food and you'll lose weight.

 

[monstermmf]

Hold up homie.. I don't think you should go shopping for any winnie.. I suggest Thermo and some Levorex, until you get down to a desirable BF% for running Winny.. And I am being serious.. I'm sure other bro's will chime in on this.. Winny will not make you skinny. Your diet is FIRST.. then your Cardio.. are you doing some cardio in the morning.. what's your diet look like.. IMO, I don't think Winny is going to do anything for what your looking for right now. Here would be my process.. Get some Thermo and Lev.. do this, until the weight starts to drop off. Once you can see your abs.. Id add in some Yoh ES for a couple weeks with this. Once you start getting more defined, then maybe go on two weeks on two weeks off with clen. After this (which I'm actually in this process) I'm jumping on some Tren for a cycle.. Cycle After.. Test E... or maybe primo.. depends how I look by then..

I think it's way too early for the Winny to do anything for you productive..

 

[monstermmf]

I'm taking my time with this and it's working wonderfully.. I was completely lazy after being huge for years.. Two months, I've dieted down using Lev, and thermo.. Getting ready to start the Y'es within the next two weeks.. That pic is about a month and a half in.

I'm just taking it as a process.. Chiseling away each thing.. I'm going to take time off obviously in between the Tren and the next cycle.. work on it some more.. Get my base up a lot more.. Then hit the primo..

 

[BigGunsInc.]

Bro,
It sounds like your on the right track. but as the other guys have mentioned, there is no AS that is going to just make you lose weight. It is going to be in diet and cardio. keep that up for a while and if you wanna run something later i would say avoid winny at all costs if you are having problems with your joints at all as winny will more than likely just make that problem much worse. keep doing what your doing and if you wanna harden up later, research running a little EQ at 500 MG for about 20 weeks. that in my opinion would be a much better choice.. just my .02

BGI

 

[Road Weazel]

Wow! Thanx for the input. Let me say that I'm NOT going to try Winny. I misunderstood it's use/effects.
I am on that radical new "Move around more and put less stuff in your mouth" diet and it's worked but kinda tapered off. The diet's really pretty much in check: Large fruit and yogurt protien smoothie at 6am, coffee 'til 9ish, 4 egg whites and a chicken breast at 10am, 1 cup of veggies (or a salad) and lean meat at 1pm, protien shake w/coffee at 2:30pm and off to the gym, protien shake when I get home and then more veggies and lean meat for dinner. I keep a Cliff Bar on hand most of the time in case I can't get some real food. If I get hungry during the day I snack on a can of tuna. I'm trying to avoid processed sugar and minimize the breads. I get one "Cheater Meal" a week ;^)
Yohimbe 1111 from Optimum is already in my pile of suppliments.
I just changed my weight routine to lighter weights and more reps to burn more fat. I'm not working legs much as I'm saving them for the cardio. The gym comes in the PM since I start work at 6:30am.
Thanx!