TRT injection

[markluv]

My doc prescribed be Test P for TRT at 50mg M,W,F. This prop is so painful to inject. It's 200mg per ml. The prop i've cycled has always been 100mg per ml and moderately painful. This stuff is agony. How can I "Water" these injections down so they arent so painful? Is it as simple as adding grape seed oil to the syringe when i'm injecting? Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Nelson Montana]

No, don't add oil. That wouldn't be sanitary.

Prop is a horrible choice for TRT. Ask your doc for a longer acting ester or find another doc.

 

[Thisguyalex]

I'm on trt as well and I get a 200 mg shot of cyp every 14 days pretty much painless

 

[buddhabuilder]

Yea, I have been studying this and I never heard of prop being used for TRT.

 

[ALIN]

My doc prescribed be Test P for TRT at 50mg M,W,F. This prop is so painful to inject. It's 200mg per ml. The prop i've cycled has always been 100mg per ml and moderately painful. This stuff is agony. How can I "Water" these injections down so they arent so painful? Is it as simple as adding grape seed oil to the syringe when i'm injecting? Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Tell you doc you wantt to switch to ENAN or CYP

 

[newtotheaasworld]

Sounds all wrong. Most docs Rx 100-200 Mg of Long Esther Cypionate or Enthenate in weekely or every 10 day injections. Those are quite painless.

That is also super concentrated Test Prop and I can tell you it HURTS LIKE A MF

The reason is as follows

Pain is caused when the oil/solvents are absorbed by the body and crystals are left behind.
Short esters (propionate or acetate) are harder, more painful crystals with melting points in the 100c range.
A hormone with a longer esters (excluding cypionate- cyp is long but also high melting point) can have a melting point in the 20c-40c range. not far off from human body temp.

Pain is also caused by concentration of your gear.
Building off of point 1: Let's say it takes the body 24 hours to absorb 1mL of a certain oil/solvent blend, and 24 hours to absorb 50mg of Testosterone Propionate. If 50mg (or less) of testosterone propionate is in 1mL of that oil, this injection should be painless. On the other hand, if 100mg of testosterone propionate is in that same 1mL of solution, then after 24 hours the body will have absorbed 50mg and 1mL, leaving 50mg behind in the injection area, crystalized and painful.
Its better to shoot 3mL of 50mg/mL Testosterone Propionate than 1mL of 150mg/mL Testosterone Propionate.
This is also why water based suspensions (Testosterone base/no ester, Winstrol) hurt the most, water is very easily absorbed in the body

The solvents used can cause pain in 2 ways. Benzyl alcohol (BA) is used at 1%-2% as a preservative and antiseptic. If the alcohol content is too high the gear will burn. Pain in the first 24 hours is usually caused by heavy solvents, pain in the next few hours is usually cause by crystalization. Another way is a bad recipe. if someone used 2% BA, and the rest of the solution oil, the mg/mL would have to be low due to oil's weak ability to hold crystals. On the other hand, a recipe like 2% BA, 5% Guaiacol (super solvent), 10% Benzyl Salicylate (liquid asprin) with the filler split 50:50 between Ethyl Oleate (oil/solvent hybrid) and normal oil should be far less painful.