TRT and cardiovascular risks VS. SARMS...weighing options

[matter2003]

Ok, I am definitely a candidate for TRT, but am weighing my options. I want to make it clear I am not looking to push my levels to like 1500 or anything like that, just high normal like 900-1000. I know some say this is still AAS use but I consider that more along the lines of Tren, Winstrol, and pushing T levels super high,etc...

TRT is normally considered a fairly safe alternative but recent studies cast shadows on that. A TRT study recently had to be stopped because of a statistically significant number of cardio events, which seemed to be related to a rise in hemocrit which turned the blood more slushy causing stroke and heart issues...Also it can have negative consequences for prostate enlargement. It also can have negative effects on cholesterol and lipid profiles, although the studies can come to different conclusions, with some showing it improved them.

SARMS on the other hand were partially developed to avoid many of these issues...blood pressure, gland issues, cholesterol,etc although LGD does seem to have some of these...

The down side is we have no idea what the long term effects of SARMS will be as they were designed mainly for short term use. Researchers don't see any long term effects but you only need to watch daytime TV to see how many drug companies are getting sued over their drugs having unwanted long term effects.

So my quandry as it would be is to decide whether the CDV risks of TRT outweigh the unknown effects of long term repeated SARMs use...SARMs definitely seem like a viable alternative but then you also have to wonder how good quality you get from.batch to batch as well versus pharm grade Test E or C...

Any thoughts or comments regarding this?

 

[matter2003]

I now see that was a very flawed study that included mostly older people many of whom already were obese, had CVD, diabetes and other health conditions...it also only included 200 people which was small...

Many other studies done show that T levels under 550 weaken the heart as it has more receptors than anywhere else in the body and that optimal range is in the upper quartile of 750-900...most research I am reading was by life extension and backed by Harvard medical teams...

Looks like my choice is pretty clear...will be talking to doctor soon and will transition to TRT after this SARMS run...

 

[RickRock13]

TRT is safe if done responsibly with proper dosages, and bloodwork is monitored for RBC and hematocrit levels. Giving blood every so often is a good idea to keep those things in range.

With that said, sarms are not anything that can be compared to TRT. Its apples to oranges. Sarms do not put your test levels into a range where they should be

 

[matter2003]

TRT is safe if done responsibly with proper dosages, and bloodwork is monitored for RBC and hematocrit levels. Giving blood every so often is a good idea to keep those things in range.

With that said, sarms are not anything that can be compared to TRT. Its apples to oranges. Sarms do not put your test levels into a range where they should be

yeah I read about the whole giving blood thing...that may be the deal breaker for me...I am very squeamish with that type of stuff and usually come close to passing out or pass out...

 

[truckdaddy]

with TRT you will have to get your blood done a couple of times a year.

try the Sarms from Sarms Search

 

[jcnuts]

yeah I read about the whole giving blood thing...that may be the deal breaker for me...I am very squeamish with that type of stuff and usually come close to passing out or pass out...

You may have to give blood twice one year or once in 3 or 4 yrs just depends on how the RBC comes back. Everyone is different. A friend of mine has been on TRT for 4 yrs and only had to give blood once.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[matter2003]

You may have to give blood twice one year or once in 3 or 4 yrs just depends on how the RBC comes back. Everyone is different. A friend of mine has been on TRT for 4 yrs and only had to give blood once.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

Hmm, I guess that isn't too bad...I might be able to live with that if the results are good enough, and pushing my test to 900-1000 on a consistent basis should give good results along with my diet and training...

 

[jcnuts]

Hmm, I guess that isn't too bad...I might be able to live with that if the results are good enough, and pushing my test to 900-1000 on a consistent basis should give good results along with my diet and training...

It will definitely be consistent that's for sure. I take 200mg a week and stay between 1200-1500 but a friend of mine goes to the same doc and gets the same 200mg a week and his stays between 900-1100.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[matter2003]

It will definitely be consistent that's for sure. I take 200mg a week and stay between 1200-1500 but a friend of mine goes to the same doc and gets the same 200mg a week and his stays between 900-1100.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

I am assuming one would be able to build a lean, muscular body with T levels there and not much else other than hard work and eating properly correct?

 

[Shrine1]

Hell yeah. Thats why it doesnr make sense to juice in your early 20s. Your producing hella T at that age.

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[matter2003]

Hell yeah. Thats why it doesnr make sense to juice in your early 20s. Your producing hella T at that age.

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Ok cool, definitely going to look into it...sucks the new insurance at work won't pay for it, but with one of those free precription cards you can get, a 10ml vial is only $65 which is pretty cheap compared to other options

 

[jcnuts]

I am assuming one would be able to build a lean, muscular body with T levels there and not much else other than hard work and eating properly correct?

Yeah that's it. I still work my ass off but I can definitely get away with more (junk food) and still benefit.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[matter2003]

Yeah that's it. I still work my ass off but I can definitely get away with more (junk food) and still benefit.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

Yeah, I'm used to working three times harder for half the results, I don't know any other way...

I get people I don't even know coming up to me in the gym and giving me props cause they are impressed with how hard I work...

 

[Shrine1]

Yeah, I'm used to working three times harder for half the results, I don't know any other way...

I get people I don't even know coming up to me in the gym and giving me props cause they are impressed with how hard I work...

Thats cool bro.. Add high test levels to your work ethic and see dramatic changes to your physique. Exploring anabolics has changed my outlook on what I can accomplish cause I was sitting where I didnt want to be for a long time

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