trinity united my ass

[cboogsrun]

Our troops are doing fine.
If Rumsfield had listened to our Generals (overwhelming ground forces to control the population), an insurgency would have never gotten started, and it would have been over in a few months.
Now that we have a Secretary Of Defense that's letting the Generals do what they do best, things are turning around.
At no time were our troops to blame for this quagmire.

Not saying they are at fault by any means. I have many friends still in the service and 2 very close friends in Iraq right now. My point is that the US forces are as effective as the UN would be.

 

[cboogsrun]

I still have friends over there and I keep in close contact with them. From what they tell me morale is high, things are getting better, and they are proud of what they have done.

My friends that are over there tell me its worthless to be over there. 2 of them are officers. One is a company commander and has been over there 3 times. He said the first time he was there, the people were greatfull and each time he goes back the people are more and more ungreatfull.

 

[jestro]

Hey powerbuilder, have you read anything about William Fallon?
Things arent all good if your top comanders resign from differences of opinion. It's the sign of a fucked up system when you get rid of everyone with differing opinions.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88116189
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336849,00.html

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Hey powerbuilder, have you read anything about William Fallon?
Things arent all good if your top comanders resign from differences of opinion. It's the sign of a fucked up system when you get rid of everyone with differing opinions.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88116189
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336849,00.html

LOL @ a NAVY Admirals opinion of a ground war. He just feels left out. Jealous prick. Nimitz was the same way towards McArthur.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Note: General Powell retired from the Army, because of differences of opinion with Clinton. He possibly resigned as SOS because of differences with Bush/Rumsfeld. They should have listened to Powell before the invasion. They didn't, and now it is what it is. It's not like we can quit!
Powell >>> Fallon.

 

[Spartacus]

barack's going live on foxnews in minutes

 

[javaguru]

If you bomb places just to kill people and get them to surrender, that is a terrorist act. Pearl harbor was not Nagasaki or Hiroshima. They went after boats, we destroyed a city. Now, if they had bombed San Diego, I might agree with the eye for an eye theory.

Google "Rape of Nanking." The US didn't drop the bombs as an eye for an eye. Google the the battle of okinawa and look at the casualties. It was the most likely way to force a surrender without inflicting massive casualties on US servicemen as well as Japanese civilians. Finally, if it saved my father's life and therefore allowed me to exist, I'm all for it.


The Japanese were the first mass suicide bombers of the 20th Century.

 

[Spartacus]

"I Hope That He Finds A Better Road To Walk"

 

[Spartacus]

I just finished watching "Steel Toes"
haven't heard of it have you?

 

[cboogsrun]

I think they're doing a fine job. This endeavor will likely take a decade but I think it's a decent roll of the dice. It's hard to measure success when you can't tally up the bad events that have been prevented and didn't occur.

What you can tally is the deaths of US soldiers. The extreme religious practices by the people in the middle east is where the challenge is at. Convincing the people will take far longer than a decade.