trinity united my ass

[Powerbuilder333]

^^^ 50 years later we (the US) are still questioning our own use of the A bomb - I'd say we've been batting an eye for 50 years. No other sociey is as introspective as America.
Don't you have arm blades to play with in your trailer park?

 

[Spartacus]

doesn't seem too religious

 

[Spartacus]

what are arm blades?

 

[javaguru]

Didn't know Oprah also attends that church.

 

[cboogsrun]

I'm a veteran, and extremely patriotic. However I do feel we police the world and put our noses where they don't belong. I raised my right hand and swore to protect the constituition, not police the world. The government lied to us about weapons of mass destruction in order to start a war. They went into a war with out the support of the UN. Now we are doing what the UN does, policing Iraq. The middle east was unstable before, now it is chaotic. If you poll the rest of the world, our President would get more votes as the biggest terrorist in the world than Osama Bin Laden.

 

[Spartacus]

the UN is ineffective

 

[Powerbuilder333]

what are arm blades?

You asked for it - lol.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/pic-me-my-new-badass-armblades-587507.html

 

[needtogetarmy]

He says in the quoted text that "we never batted an eye" when talking about us bombing Japan, and he's right we didnt. He's speaking in context of how the U.S has a load of double standards when it comes to the value of life. You're only worth something if you're white and speak English.

That's bullshit. We did "bat an eye" when considering whether bombing Japan. The bottom line was that if we didn't millions of Americans would have died trying to take the mainland. In the end, those are the types of decisions made in war. The Japanese would have done the same to us if they had the bomb. The Japanese massacred millions of Chinese. I suppose that fact is easy to ignore. (I can't believe I even have to debate this issue.)

No one gives a shit about all the little kids over there being mutililated by bombings or soldiers ont heir tours raping kids and burning villiages that is fine and dandy cause they wear towels ont heir heads, they're subhuman, they're not American and totally awesome. Yet a soldier tosses a dog off a cliff and the fucking internet erupts. That is the point he is trying to make when he mentions that certain dialogue. We're a nation of double standard bigots. I wholeheartedly agree.

I don't know one American who doesn't care about the war. I've been there. I've been to more funerals over the past year than Wright has been to in his entire lifetime. If you think Americans, and Americans soldiers, do not give a damn about the indigenous Iraqi people then you have no idea what is really going on over there.

SOME Americans are bigots. Most are not. Wright IS a bigot. His comments about Jews, Whites and Latinos is pure hate. If you support the genocide of Whites and you believe Jews are the scum of the earth then I'll just quit typing because there is no way to argue against such hatred.

All in all he is stating the obvious, you cannot keep dicking around in other culture's business and thinking they're going to be happy about it. Would you like it if China invaded and tried to make us more Chnese because they think their culture and form of leadership is better than ours? No? Well OK then.

I suppose we should not have "dicked around" in Europe or Japan in WWII. Same deal with Saddam? America is wrong and evil. Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam are saints. I don't even know where to begin replying to this. You believe we went into Iraq just to make them "more American?" Where do you come up with this type of thinking? We went in because there was a United Nations resolution authorizing force. Additionally, the US was just one of many countries that went to war. Are the Aussies also trying to force their culture on the Iraqi people? What about Poland? The UK? Finally, comparing China invading the US to the US invading Iraq is totally misplaced. The war has absolutely nothing to do with culture or leadership.

 

[cboogsrun]

the UN is ineffective

Obviously, so are the US forces that are in Iraq.

 

[needtogetarmy]

IMO we should pull out of the UN and let it all rot to hell. Let the arrogant Europeans try to fix things. Hell, the French can't control a bunch of Arab teenagers in Paris from killing cops - I'd love to see what they would do in a real war.