https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25554582
^ tren administered to rats for 6 weeks
The control rats gained fat
Looks to me tren is a better fat burner than muscle builder in this scenario. Let me guess... apparently steroids don't build muscle either?
Take it as you will, but based on that and pretty much any other research paper you look at, you will find that steroid use always leads to a improvement in body composition (fat loss/muscle gain.)
steroids build muscle and strength assuming you have your diet and training on point.
they can HELP you keep muscle and strength while you lose fat if you eat in a deficit.
that is how i would categorize it.
most people who use steroids look like shit. the average steroid user doesn't look like Simeon Panda. they look worse than I look, and i barely juice.
the way you are talking is making it sound like some fat kid who is 300 pounds sitting in his basement can just stick tren up his ass and get shredded. it doesn't work like that and you know it
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