Trenbolone acetate

[_n8o_]

Trenbolone acetate - 5000K given for answer

Hello all
I have a couple of questions here. One is that i see a lot of threads talking about Tren in a cutting cycle, I've read the profile of Trenbolone acetate and am unsure why you would use this in a cutter? I would think that Masteron would be a wiser choice, assuming that it's used in conjunction with test. I have also heard a little about Parabolan when Tren is being talked about as an alternative is there any advantage to Para over tren? I cant help but think i have missed something. I'm researching these compounds because I'm wanting to run a cutting cycle and was thinking of running Test Prop at 500mg a week, Masteron at 500mg a week, Can Tren be added to this cycle? Im 6'2 272lbs at around 17% B/F Any help would be appreciated greatly

 

[_n8o_]

also i forgot to say Im thinking of running this for 8 weeks, i was thinking of running tren at 210mg a week and trying to drop 6-7% bodyfat

 

[_n8o_]

anyone?

 

[genman]

Re: Trenbolone acetate - 5000K given for answer

Hello all
I have a couple of questions here. One is that i see a lot of threads talking about Tren in a cutting cycle, I've read the profile of Trenbolone acetate and am unsure why you would use this in a cutter? I would think that Masteron would be a wiser choice, assuming that it's used in conjunction with test. I have also heard a little about Parabolan when Tren is being talked about as an alternative is there any advantage to Para over tren? I cant help but think i have missed something. I'm researching these compounds because I'm wanting to run a cutting cycle and was thinking of running Test Prop at 500mg a week, Masteron at 500mg a week, Can Tren be added to this cycle? Im 6'2 272lbs at around 17% B/F Any help would be appreciated greatly

Tren is great for cutting B/F, especially around the belly. A cutter or bulker is determined more by diet than compounds. You can cut or bulk on just about anything. Mast is also a good, albeit more expensive choice for cutting, with winny being a compromise between the two. You'll love the tren for cutting and the strength gains are insane. Test/tren will do very well for you.

 

[blut wump]

It binds quite strongly to the AR receptor in fat cells. It also jacks up your nervous system. Basically, parts of you go into overdrive.

Some guys can eat Mickey D's and still cut on tren.

 

[depotrone]

masteron wont work for you unless you under 10% bodyfat in my personal experiences. i have used tren and got great results even with a high calorie diet. cant imagine how ripped i would have got if i was dieting and doing cardio.

 

[sabarblatoe]

How about using Tren for bulking when you dont go REAL heavy on the weights? I Have bad joints so i dont go heavy so as not to break my joints down anymore than they are. The reason i ask is cuz it is so good about strength gains it makes me wonder if it will work it you dont use those gains for the heavier weight. Great thread by the way.

 

[blut wump]

Use NPP rather than tren in that case.

 

[_n8o_]

thanks heaps for the help guys ill give karma to all of you thanks again

 

[jacshelb]

One of the reasons tren can be good for cutting is that it doesn't convert to estrogen and managing estrogen is a key factor in a cutting cycle. If you are using test in your cutter, consider moderating your estrogen levels using something like letrozole in very light "as needed" doses. I do this and it keeps the water weight down and helps with fat loss. Also, from my experience, tren seems to help negate some sides of test. I don't know if anyone else experiences this, but, for example: I used to run a prop only cycle and get gyno symptoms and hairloss. But, mixing it up with half tren/ half prop at the same doses, I get no negative sides (other than a little insomnia cured easily with benadryl). Just my experience. This works in reverse too. If you were on an all tren cycle, adding test would improve mood/sense of well being as well as increase gains. I think test and tren compliment eachother well.


Jacob

 

[_n8o_]

what dose would tren be run? from what i've read about 210mg a week for me is right is this true? also could clen and t3 be added to this cycle or would i be better to add winny?

 

[ViperHMS]

what dose would tren be run? from what i've read about 210mg a week for me is right is this true? also could clen and t3 be added to this cycle or would i be better to add winny?

I believe in KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid

You've never run tren before so i'd suggest you try it at 50mg ED or 100mg EOD. The lowest i've seen anyone run tren is 37.5mg ED which would be ~260mg/wk. I say give the tren a shot and see how you like it. It does wonders for strenght and fat loss. If somehow it does not meet you needs try again with a different diet and add in t3 and clen.

 

[_n8o_]

is 50mg a day at the low end? would a normal dose be 100mg a day or is 50 pretty standard? i think ill take that advice and try keep it simple

 

[genman]

is 50mg a day at the low end? would a normal dose be 100mg a day or is 50 pretty standard? i think ill take that advice and try keep it simple

50 mg/ed is not "low end", it is a normal dose for new tren users. You should see great results with this, as I did.

 

[ViperHMS]

is 50mg a day at the low end? would a normal dose be 100mg a day or is 50 pretty standard? i think ill take that advice and try keep it simple

I think my first run with tren was 75mg EOD, but it was so long ago, I dont really know for sure. Like Genman said 50 is an average dose for a first run. I did 75mg/ml because that was the suposed final potency of a fina pellet conversion. Its easier now to do 50mg because a lot of UG labs make their solutions at 100mg/ml.

 

[Patterson]

Parabolan is tren - just a particular ester (longer) than you have with tren acetate... Personally, I've tried every flavor and prefer Trenbolone Enanthate 200. It is the longest ester available, but is actually lighter than some of the others, i.e. you get more tren here than you would with Parabolan... I stack it with Test Enanthate 250, and inject 2 times per week (1ml tren + 2ml test), i.e. 400ml tren and 1,000ml test per week. I'll also add oxymetholone 50mg twice a day. Obviously, this is a bulking cycle... The mix of test and tren this way is a powerful combination - strength and bulk with enough water to save the joints.

The sweats suck, though... And drink a LOT of water...

 

[OMEGA]

I happen to think Tren is terrible for cutting unless you are already lean.

if it reduces your cardio vascular out put as it does in so many, forget it.

Again however if your already lean then of course it will shred you

 

[jacshelb]

I happen to think Tren is terrible for cutting unless you are already lean.

if it reduces your cardio vascular out put as it does in so many, forget it.

Again however if your already lean then of course it will shred you

Good point Omega. But, for me, I've not done any cardio worth speaking of in so long, I'm actually improving while on this cutter with tren. I'm a lazy bastard when it comes to cardio, but I'll tell you that my endurance is improving little by little despite the tren right now.


Jacob

 

[solidspine]

Is this your first cycle, and how old are you,

forget about masteron


Tren and test are great for anything

You would do Tren ace at 50mg per day for 4-5 weeks, max.

 

[_n8o_]

I'm 22 and first inject cycle, i've done winny only cycles twise and a clen and t3 cycle

 

[Mac173]

Is this your first cycle, and how old are you,

forget about masteron


Tren and test are great for anything

You would do Tren ace at 50mg per day for 4-5 weeks, max.

Decided to come back from the AF board huh?

 

[mickeyb69]

does anyone know if you can mix tren with test and inject them at the same time

 

[BigBlu]

does anyone know if you can mix tren with test and inject them at the same time

Yes you can.

 

[dmastrop]

i do it every monday wed friday ..

 

[ViperHMS]

i do it every monday wed friday ..

Why not EOD? Every week you have that 2 day period (Sat and Sun) where levels are going to be way out of wak come monday. To each his own I guess.

 

[thegoodfoods]

Why not EOD? Every week you have that 2 day period (Sat and Sun) where levels are going to be way out of wak come monday. To each his own I guess.

What if it's Test E or Cyp?

 

[cboogsrun]

I happen to think Tren is terrible for cutting unless you are already lean.

if it reduces your cardio vascular out put as it does in so many, forget it.

Again however if your already lean then of course it will shred you

I would greatly disagree. I went from being 16% bf to 12% in 6 weeks using tren and not changing my diet except adding more protein. that was tren/prop 100mg each eod. Probably the best cycle I've ever had. Somewhere in the 25-30lb sway in total muscle added while loosing fat.

 

[cboogsrun]

The only bad thing I can say about tren is it shuts you down hard. I'll start my cycle tomorrow and use hcg throughout at 500iu e3d to help. Last cycle it took 12 weeks to fully recover after a 6 week long cycle. I did a piss poor job following pct that I had originally set out. I told myself if I'm going to continue to cycle then I need to stay disciplined and not depend on the compounds but on my hard work.

 

[ViperHMS]

What if it's Test E or Cyp?

Then its twice per week, but were not talking about test E or C here were talking about a substance that is needed ED or EOD

 

[_n8o_]

I would greatly disagree. I went from being 16% bf to 12% in 6 weeks using tren and not changing my diet except adding more protein. that was tren/prop 100mg each eod. Probably the best cycle I've ever had. Somewhere in the 25-30lb sway in total muscle added while loosing fat.

Do you think you could have lost more bodyfat in a longer cycle with a modified diet? like in the 8% region? I assume it greatly depends on the way your body works i.e everyones different. and was that possibly a gain of 25lbs of muscle? did i hear that right?

 

[Frankieperfect]

Has anyone tried the Tren Enanthate ?

 

[BigBlu]

Re: Trenbolone acetate - 5000K given for answer

Hello all
I have a couple of questions here. One is that i see a lot of threads talking about Tren in a cutting cycle, I've read the profile of Trenbolone acetate and am unsure why you would use this in a cutter? I would think that Masteron would be a wiser choice, assuming that it's used in conjunction with test. I have also heard a little about Parabolan when Tren is being talked about as an alternative is there any advantage to Para over tren? I cant help but think i have missed something. I'm researching these compounds because I'm wanting to run a cutting cycle and was thinking of running Test Prop at 500mg a week, Masteron at 500mg a week, Can Tren be added to this cycle? Im 6'2 272lbs at around 17% B/F Any help would be appreciated greatly

Bro, at your weight and LBM status I would forget about Masteron. Masteron is the icing on the cake for competitive BB'ers. I am also 6'2". I weigh 260 lbs and I'm 12% bf. I would go with Tren A/Test Prop at 75mg ED and 100mg ED for 8 weeks, then finish the cycle off with 4 weeks of T3, Clen and Winny. You will create awesome quality lean mass whilst dropping bodyfat with this 3 month 'cycle'. The loss of bodyfat on Tren can be attributed to it's androgenicity. It is 5 x stronger than test in this dept. Do some cardio 2 to 3 days per week (not on weights days) and you will drop a noticeable amount amount of body fat, especially after your t3/clen/winny finish. It's only 12 weeks to a new you. Believe me on this one. Tren is the nectar of the Gods.

My current cycle is the following done for 8 weeks:

1.) Tren A 75mg ED
2.) Test Prop 100mg ED
3.) Long R3 IGF-1, 80mcg bilaterally PWO (on weights days only, i.e. 3 x per week)
4.) Aromasin 25mg EOD
5.) Pregnyl 1000iu twice weekly (Mon and Thurs)

Then this cycle for 4 weeks:

1.) Winny Depot 50mg ED
2.) Clen 80mcg ED
3.) T3 50mcg ED
4.) Zaditen (Ketotifen) 1mg twice/day (inhibits receptor attentuation with b-agonists like clen)
5.) Pregnyl 1000iu 3 x per week (Mon, Wed, Fri)
6.) Aromasin 25mg EOD

Then PCT for 4 weeks.

Enjoy

 

[ViperHMS]

Re: Trenbolone acetate - 5000K given for answer

Bro, at your weight and LBM status I would forget about Masteron. Masteron is the icing on the cake for competitive BB'ers. I am also 6'2". I weigh 260 lbs and I'm 12% bf. I would go with Tren E/Test Prop at 75mg ED and 100mg ED for 8 weeks, then finish the cycle off with 4 weeks of T3, Clen and Winny. You will create awesome quality lean mass whilst dropping bodyfat with this 3 month 'cycle'. The loss of bodyfat on Tren can be attributed to it's androgenicity. It is 5 x stronger than test in this dept. Do some cardio 2 to 3 days per week (not on weights days) and you will drop a noticeable amount amount of body fat, especially after your t3/clen/winny finish. It's only 12 weeks to a new you. Believe me on this one. Tren is the nectar of the Gods.

My current cycle is the following done for 8 weeks:

1.) Tren 75mg ED
2.) Test Prop 100mg ED
3.) Long R3 IGF-1, 80mcg bilaterally PWO (on weights days only, i.e. 3 x per week)
4.) Aromasin 25mg EOD
5.) Pregnyl 1000iu twice weekly (Mon and Thurs)

Then this cycle for 4 weeks:

1.) Winny Depot 50mg ED
2.) Clen 80mcg ED
3.) T3 50mcg ED
4.) Zaditen (Ketotifen) 1mg twice/day (inhibits receptor attentuation with b-agonists like clen)
5.) Pregnyl 1000iu 3 x per week (Mon, Wed, Fri)
6.) Aromasin 25mg EOD

Then PCT for 4 weeks.

Enjoy

Edit above from Tren E to Tren A

 

[BigBlu]

Re: Trenbolone acetate - 5000K given for answer

Edit above from Tren E to Tren A

Thanks.