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Trenbolonas ??
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Si lees un poco descubriras que es un esteroide obtenido de un medicamento veterinario, y es un proceso muy laborioso, es el mimso compuesto del parabolan (descontinuado), y por lo que ya he conversado con Diesselman es bastante toxico para riñones y tambien leí que para el higado.
es de cuidado su manejo. pero ofrece buenos resultados.
Suerte y si piensas usarlo, hazte tus controles Ok.
es de cuidado su manejo. pero ofrece buenos resultados.
Suerte y si piensas usarlo, hazte tus controles Ok.
Goering
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Muscle-doc:
La fama de toxicidad en los riñones de la trenbolona creo que viene de una pobre esterilizacion de la misma en el proceso de hacerla. Por eso recomiendan tomar jugo de cranberry (arandano), porque el mismo crea una pared resbalosa en los tubulos de los riñones que no permite que las bacterias (tales como la salmonella) se peguen y se fijen.
En cuanto a la toxicidad en el higado, no he encontrado evidencias de ello.
Saludos.
La fama de toxicidad en los riñones de la trenbolona creo que viene de una pobre esterilizacion de la misma en el proceso de hacerla. Por eso recomiendan tomar jugo de cranberry (arandano), porque el mismo crea una pared resbalosa en los tubulos de los riñones que no permite que las bacterias (tales como la salmonella) se peguen y se fijen.
En cuanto a la toxicidad en el higado, no he encontrado evidencias de ello.
Saludos.
Amigo GOERING, tienes razon, pero no olvidemos que el Parabolan (descontinuado) era de uso humano y bajo distinto grado de calidad y aun asi , para muchos causo stress en los riñones, muchos hasta sangraban al orinar (claro esos eran casos extremos) parecido al stress que se siente en los riñones con niveles altos de EQ.
Simplemente se debe aplicar con el mismo cuidado con el que aplicas cualquier otro compuesto y a la vez que cuidas tu dieta y tomas tus protectores.
De paso , no he sabido de nadie que haya sentido stress en el higado por la trembolona.
Simplemente se debe aplicar con el mismo cuidado con el que aplicas cualquier otro compuesto y a la vez que cuidas tu dieta y tomas tus protectores.
De paso , no he sabido de nadie que haya sentido stress en el higado por la trembolona.
Cornellius
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Nunca he visto un estudio que demuestre le toxicidad de la trenbolona. Por otro lado, si he visto un estodio que demuestre que no lo es. Aqui está:
Arch Toxicol 1988;61(4):249-58 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut
The genotoxicity of trenbolone, a synthetic steroid.
Richold M
Huntingdon Research Centre, Cambs, England.
Trenbolone, a synthetic androgen is used as a growth promotant in animal husbandry. Because of its steroidal structure and properties it has been extensively evaluated in a series of in vitro and in vivo assays to assess its genotoxic and initiating properties. Both the parent molecule 17-beta-hydroxy-trenbolone and its metabolite 17-alpha-hydroxy-trenbolone, produced only in cattle, have been tested. 17-beta-hydroxy-trenbolone was not genotoxic in the Ames Salmonella/microsome assay, cytogenetics assays in human lymphocytes and CHO cells, a micronucleus assay in CHO cells, a DNA repair synthesis assay in HeLa cells, mammalian cell mutation assays with CHO and V79 cells, the mouse micronucleus assay, rat bone marrow or spermatogonial cytogenetics assays or in a test for initiators in the rat. In the mouse lymphoma cell mutation assay with L 5178Y TK+/- cells, equivocal responses were obtained, particularly at highly toxic concentrations. With 17-alpha-hydroxy-trenbolone a weak positive response was obtained in the L5178Y Tk +/- assay, particularly at highly toxic concentrations. Negative results were obtained in the Ames Salmonella/microsome assay, the cytogenetics assays using both human lymphocytes in vitro and rat bone marrow in vivo, the DNA repair assay and in the CHO mammalian cell mutation assay. It was also negative in the in vivo test for initiators. From this extensive battery of data, and also taking into account published data on trenbolone, it is concluded that 17-alpha-hydroxytrenbolone and 17-beta-hydroxy-trenbolone are devoid of genotoxic activity and are not initiators of cancer.
Arch Toxicol 1988;61(4):249-58 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut
The genotoxicity of trenbolone, a synthetic steroid.
Richold M
Huntingdon Research Centre, Cambs, England.
Trenbolone, a synthetic androgen is used as a growth promotant in animal husbandry. Because of its steroidal structure and properties it has been extensively evaluated in a series of in vitro and in vivo assays to assess its genotoxic and initiating properties. Both the parent molecule 17-beta-hydroxy-trenbolone and its metabolite 17-alpha-hydroxy-trenbolone, produced only in cattle, have been tested. 17-beta-hydroxy-trenbolone was not genotoxic in the Ames Salmonella/microsome assay, cytogenetics assays in human lymphocytes and CHO cells, a micronucleus assay in CHO cells, a DNA repair synthesis assay in HeLa cells, mammalian cell mutation assays with CHO and V79 cells, the mouse micronucleus assay, rat bone marrow or spermatogonial cytogenetics assays or in a test for initiators in the rat. In the mouse lymphoma cell mutation assay with L 5178Y TK+/- cells, equivocal responses were obtained, particularly at highly toxic concentrations. With 17-alpha-hydroxy-trenbolone a weak positive response was obtained in the L5178Y Tk +/- assay, particularly at highly toxic concentrations. Negative results were obtained in the Ames Salmonella/microsome assay, the cytogenetics assays using both human lymphocytes in vitro and rat bone marrow in vivo, the DNA repair assay and in the CHO mammalian cell mutation assay. It was also negative in the in vivo test for initiators. From this extensive battery of data, and also taking into account published data on trenbolone, it is concluded that 17-alpha-hydroxytrenbolone and 17-beta-hydroxy-trenbolone are devoid of genotoxic activity and are not initiators of cancer.
