Tren vs npp

[Monstrosity619]

I'm 20 years old 165lbs with between 6-8% bodyfat. Height 5'8. My first cycle I did just test prop and gained 20lbs and then I did one cycle of tren and test and gained about 10lbs not as much but my strength went way up. for my next cycle what would be better for grinning size. My goal is 190lbs with about 7% body fat.

 

[olypr]

Did you complete a post cycle therapy program after each cycle?

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Deca- gaining weight
Tren- maintaining while on deficit, or losing weight...

I prefer deca over NPP personally... I have attempted npp twice and to me I do not respond well to it... I get better gains from 750eq... deca, I get mass, NPP I get bloat.... three different labs as well...

How tall are you???
Any oral experience???
What dose did your run the tren???

If you are trying to gain weight and want my honest opinion considering you are young and still fresh to juice, keep it simple and understand gaining 25lbs of lean muscle while not gaining any fat at all in one cycle is not easily done... realistically, that is a couple cycles, not saying it can not be done, but without incorporating several other factors and keeping it basic as you are only 20years old, I don't see you gaining 25lbs of lean muscle in one cycle... I would run a higher test dose with eq, or an oral like dbol...

Keep your diet as clean as possible and you should net great keepable results....

Test E- 750-1000 mg 12 weeks
Eq- 600-750mg 10 weeks
Or
Test E- 750-1000 mg 12 weeks
Dbol- 30-50 mg per day 4-5 weeks
Or
Test E- 750-1000 mg 16weeks
Deca- 500 mg 12 weeks

Tren when you are trying to stay super lean and make gains... but I feel is more suited for contest prep or calorie deficit. (although I love Tren regardless of gaining or losing )

I would recommend an AI like exemestaine or anastrozole and always keep letro and caber for just in case.... pct, if you get off, you should know what to do to get your body recovered properly... Clomid, HCG, OTC pct in a bottle, blood work, etc....

But remember bro, it's not a sprint, is a marathon.... great physiques regardless of genetics take time to mature and intense training for several years... you are a young guy, so continue to train hard and I'm sure you will meet all your goals with ease... lmk if I can help you man or if you have any questions....
Johnny

 

[Monstrosity619]

Did you complete a post cycle therapy program after each cycle?

I'm currently on it now. I'm going to wait about 4 weeks after my pct to start up again

 

[Monstrosity619]

Deca- gaining weight
Tren- maintaining while on deficit, or losing weight...

I prefer deca over NPP personally... I have attempted npp twice and to me I do not respond well to it... I get better gains from 750eq... deca, I get mass, NPP I get bloat.... three different labs as well...

How tall are you???
Any oral experience???
What dose did your run the tren???

If you are trying to gain weight and want my honest opinion considering you are young and still fresh to juice, keep it simple and understand gaining 25lbs of lean muscle while not gaining any fat at all in one cycle is not easily done... realistically, that is a couple cycles, not saying it can not be done, but without incorporating several other factors and keeping it basic as you are only 20years old, I don't see you gaining 25lbs of lean muscle in one cycle... I would run a higher test dose with eq, or an oral like dbol...

Keep your diet as clean as possible and you should net great keepable results....

Test E- 750-1000 mg 12 weeks
Eq- 600-750mg 10 weeks
Or
Test E- 750-1000 mg 12 weeks
Dbol- 30-50 mg per day 4-5 weeks
Or
Test E- 750-1000 mg 16weeks
Deca- 500 mg 12 weeks

Tren when you are trying to stay super lean and make gains... but I feel is more suited for contest prep or calorie deficit. (although I love Tren regardless of gaining or losing )

I would recommend an AI like exemestaine or anastrozole and always keep letro and caber for just in case.... pct, if you get off, you should know what to do to get your body recovered properly... Clomid, HCG, OTC pct in a bottle, blood work, etc....

But remember bro, it's not a sprint, is a marathon.... great physiques regardless of genetics take time to mature and intense training for several years... you are a young guy, so continue to train hard and I'm sure you will meet all your goals with ease... lmk if I can help you man or if you have any questions....
Johnny

Height 5'8. Not oral experience all injection. And I ran 1ml EOD.

My first cycle was just test and I gained 20lbs in 8 weeks.

But thanks. Definitely will let you know if I have questions.

 

[dylangemelli]

why would you be running any sort of cycle at your age, ESPECIALLY tren or deca? you really are intent on learning the hard way huh? your 20 years old and have already ran two cycles? don't plan on running too many more man.... i hope you understand that...

 

[Monstrosity619]

why would you be running any sort of cycle at your age, ESPECIALLY tren or deca? you really are intent on learning the hard way huh? your 20 years old and have already ran two cycles? don't plan on running too many more man.... i hope you understand that...

I understand. I only planed on doing 1 more cycle. Cuz one more cycle will put it at about a year of using I've done two 8 week cycles with 8 weeks off.

 

[RickRock13]

You should not be using steroids at your age bro. You have a lot of natural growth years ahead of you

 

[Monstrosity619]

You should not be using steroids at your age bro. You have a lot of natural growth years ahead of you

What age do you say is good to start then?

 

[cop]

no need to use 750 or 1g of test bro...