Tren (via pellets) vs. Tren Powder

[the-short-one]

ok. My boyfriend is running tren ace. He started his cycle with a pellet conversion from fina. I just got powder in and made up a new batch for him. He's 1 month into his cycle.

For those of you that have tried both - are there any major differences you have noticed between the two after injecting?

1. Will the powder be more potent than the pellet conversion (at same mg/ml)? I ask this dumbe questions only because I feel there is some loss during pellet conversion and very little when converting powder, so mg/ml might be a tad off when using pellets.

2. Less pain or swelling at injection area?


Obviously, the powder is nice and clear and I'm not dealing with fillers and other gunk like I am with the pellets. While tren isn't exactly "safe", I feel he's safer with the powder than the pellets.

Any input is appreciated. thanks!

 

[al420]

Can you call my wife and give her a talking to please

 

[the-short-one]

Can you call my wife and give her a talking to please

I was surprised to find out that the majority of guys on this board have problems with their wimmin when it comes to AAS. My take on it is this:

You're going to do it anyway. Wouldn't it be better if I educated myself regarding usage and made sure that what you are taking is safe, or as safe as I can make it?

 

[gettnlarge01]

Haven"t used the powder yet but I would think with the proper filtering process it wouldn"t make a difference. Interesting question though never thought of it.

 

[Jon79]

I was surprised to find out that the majority of guys on this board have problems with their wimmin when it comes to AAS. My take on it is this:

You're going to do it anyway. Wouldn't it be better if I educated myself regarding usage and made sure that what you are taking is safe, or as safe as I can make it?

omg you are the best

 

[the-short-one]

omg you are the best

thank you. I am appreciated at home, too.

 

[H_T_]

my powders are off the hook. more potent than anything i have ever bought from a lab.

 

[gettnlarge01]

Can you call my wife and give her a talking to please

I"ll have my wife talk to her for you!! My wife has even given me a few shoots before and while I"m getting everything ready to do the injections we talk about everyday b.s. like it"s nothing. I"M SOOO LUCKY!!!!!!!

 

[the-short-one]

my powders are off the hook. more potent than anything i have ever bought from a lab.

is it because you're making high dose/ml? (like 200mg/ml) ...or are you saying you thing pre-made is a little "watered down"?

 

[H_T_]

this is getting off topic and gay.

 

[the-short-one]

Haven"t used the powder yet but I would think with the proper filtering process it wouldn"t make a difference. Interesting question though never thought of it.

well, the powder conversion makes a crystal clear, bright yellow solution. Pellet conversion makes a darkish brown/red solution, depending on how potent you make your mg/ml.

 

[H_T_]

is it because you're making high dose/ml? (like 200mg/ml) ...or are you saying you thing pre-made is a little "watered down"?

i dose it according to the formula. nothing extra. i run 75 mg winny/150mg ed/eod. and yeah, you never know what you may be getting. it could be piss you're injecting.....

 

[the-short-one]

i dose it according to the formula. nothing extra. i run 75 mg winny/150mg ed/eod. and yeah, you never know what you may be getting. it could be piss you're injecting.....

my thoughts, exactly...and powder conversion is super easy, and uber economical.

 

[H_T_]

my thoughts, exactly...and powder conversion is super easy, and uber economical.

you ain't lying. never liked driving around with shit in my car anyway....

 

[Jon79]

i would trust that you would loose less in the powder conversion.....if you have a trustworthy powder source with proven tested powders then yes you would not have to worry about all the fillers and things that you would with the pellets.

1. so yes i would think that you would end up with a higher mg/ml dose in the oil using powder instead of pellet conveersion

2. yes you could end up with less inj site irritation with powders conversion if you are not dealing with any xtra things in the powders that might be in the pellets

 

[digimon7068]

Shorty. I didn't know you were a chemist. I'm impressed. He's a fair amount older than you, right?? Is he running some test at the same time?? Any hydraulic issues?? At my age, I'm pretty sure that if I ran tren by itself, I'd be living on cialis.

 

[gettnlarge01]

well, the powder conversion makes a crystal clear, bright yellow solution. Pellet conversion makes a darkish brown/red solution, depending on how potent you make your mg/ml.

When I do the pellets mine turn out an amber color. But if there"s difference in potency per ml let us know.

 

[the-short-one]

i would trust that you would loose less in the powder conversion.....if you have a trustworthy powder source with proven tested powders then yes you would not have to worry about all the fillers and things that you would with the pellets.

1. so yes i would think that you would end up with a higher mg/ml dose in the oil using powder instead of pellet conveersion

2. yes you could end up with less inj site irritation with powders conversion if you are not dealing with any xtra things in the powders that might be in the pellets

this is what I'm thinking. I swithced him over this morning, so I guess we'll see. He's running 100mg test prop ED and 75mg tren ED. Painful lumps and some serious red swelling - which all goes away in about 7 days. I know this could be from the test prop - I made that, too - and tried to cut down on the BA to lessen the pain...

 

[the-short-one]

Shorty. I didn't know you were a chemist. I'm impressed. He's a fair amount older than you, right?? Is he running some test at the same time?? Any hydraulic issues?? At my age, I'm pretty sure that if I ran tren by itself, I'd be living on cialis.

missed this post. I think I answered your Q's above...

He's 49 - and running 3iu's of GH a day, as well. He's gone through a huge body transformation in just the past month. He's had no major sides from the tren, other than the occasional "tren cough" during injection and some night sweating.

His BP is good and his sex drive is WAY up.

 

[digimon7068]

this is what I'm thinking. I swithced him over this morning, so I guess we'll see. He's running 100mg test prop ED and 75mg tren ED. Painful lumps and some serious red swelling - which all goes away in about 7 days. I know this could be from the test prop - I made that, too - and tried to cut down on the BA to lessen the pain...

Are you mixing it in the same syringe? Anytime that I've stacked injectables and mixed. . .I get a friggin reaction (rash, itching, pain). If I split them up (different syringes and seperate injection sites), I get no reaction. More pokes but less discomfort.

 

[digimon7068]

this is what I'm thinking. I swithced him over this morning, so I guess we'll see. He's running 100mg test prop ED and 75mg tren ED. Painful lumps and some serious red swelling - which all goes away in about 7 days. I know this could be from the test prop - I made that, too - and tried to cut down on the BA to lessen the pain...

Also, if you cut down too much on the BA, you could still have crystals in the suspension which would definitely lead to pain, swelling, itching, etc.

 

[the-short-one]

Are you mixing it in the same syringe? Anytime that I've stacked injectables and mixed. . .I get a friggin reaction (rash, itching, pain). If I split them up (different syringes and seperate injection sites), I get no reaction. More pokes but less discomfort.

he's combining them. No rash - just swelling and pain/lump at injection site. It's worse when he injects in his glutes. He likes injecting in his delts. this week he tried his biceps, and he's pretty swollen. Likes it, tho.

 

[the-short-one]

Also, if you cut down too much on the BA, you could still have crystals in the suspension which would definitely lead to pain, swelling, itching, etc.

yeah. I had to experiment a little with it. I made one batch with the BA too low and got crystals on the vial. I made another and it was perfect.

test prop powder is pretty cheap, so I didn't feel too bad about the first one.

 

[H_T_]

typically, i find where i have "room" i don't swell as bad. injecting into my triceps is murder sometimes, since the arm area is always tight. as opposed to my pecs, where i can stretch the hell out of them. avoid the traps. and get one of those percussion massagers, great after an inject. but, i usually hit the gym after a shot. so i can put some more blood in that area.

 

[instant.muscle]

I was surprised to find out that the majority of guys on this board have problems with their wimmin when it comes to AAS. My take on it is this:

You're going to do it anyway. Wouldn't it be better if I educated myself regarding usage and made sure that what you are taking is safe, or as safe as I can make it?

not true, if ur wife is against it and u have kids and a family u might ask urself whats more 2 u, family and everything u've worked for, or steroids. but still thats tight ur cool with it

 

[drrman]

well, the powder conversion makes a crystal clear, bright yellow solution. Pellet conversion makes a darkish brown/red solution, depending on how potent you make your mg/ml.

this darkening color is just from the oxidation of the pellets, the powders are the way to go, much cleaner product, easier to make and filter, and you can use lower BA content when using the powders as you don't have to break down the pellets with all the ba/bb in that magic solution

 

[the-short-one]

typically, i find where i have "room" i don't swell as bad. injecting into my triceps is murder sometimes, since the arm area is always tight. as opposed to my pecs, where i can stretch the hell out of them. avoid the traps. and get one of those percussion massagers, great after an inject. but, i usually hit the gym after a shot. so i can put some more blood in that area.

oi. that's exactly what he does. he hits the gym right after a shot and works it out. I'll check out the percussion massager, though. That sounds like it would do the trick.

 

[get456]

i would EXPECT my girl to be cool with it if i ever got on again... but actually MAKING it for me is another story!! LOL

 

[H_T_]

oi. that's exactly what he does. he hits the gym right after a shot and works it out. I'll check out the percussion massager, though. That sounds like it would do the trick.

AAP, bless his gay soul, recommended it in a post of his. they work well for lumps and for making room for new muscle growth. i prefer to use it before it lumps up. it's quite sadistic if you wait until after.....

 

[the-short-one]

AAP, bless his gay soul, recommended it in a post of his. they work well for lumps and for making room for new muscle growth. i prefer to use it before it lumps up. it's quite sadistic if you wait until after.....

I don't think he's totally gay. AAP = fractionally gay which = bisexual.

 

[Ulter]

I don't agree. Pellets rule.
Next time you make tren use both and send them to a lab and see which one scores higher.

 

[the-short-one]

I don't agree. Pellets rule.
Next time you make tren use both and send them to a lab and see which one scores higher.

I have both right now. Do you have the name/address, etc of a lab for me to send...and how much do I need to send as a sample?

 

[black sheep]

I have done both - Did not really notice any difference. THe latest powder conversion I did I used mostly EO to make it thin. I am going to try to shoot the test/tren home brew with a 27g

 

[chazk]

not all tren powder is pure.Most sources say things such as 97.1-99% pure.you should still run it through a filter anyways to get out that 1-2% non tren.I have done it with other powders such as test.Belive it or not it looks pure and clean then you remove the whatman and look at it and sure enough a lil thick white substance was in it and its not the roid becuase the bb would have dissolved it. better safe then sorry.

but your right the crushed fina always seem to have the dye mixed in that the filter just cant seem to pick all of it up.I have filtered finaplix home brew 3 times before it was what I would consider golden rather then brown piss.

 

[DieselGunz]

damn look at what shorty knows