tren/test suspension/primo cycle

[arnoldisking]

Was thinking of hitting a tren/ test suspension/ primo cycle.

Is it a good combo?

I have heard of the deca and test supension cycle but i ran deca last cycle along with sus but this even if i want to get some hard gains, so i think tren might be the better way but please share any advice. And if i see that test suspension is giving me a soft look i have some winny tabs laying around that i never used so i might just end up throwing it mid cycle if needed.

i want the primo in there so i can keep the estrogen side effects down and gain a few pounds that will stay.

Should I still run arimidex? someone told me i dont need it but after researching about the side effects and the only thing that hits me on cycle is light gyno i think i should be running a mild dosage of arimidex.

A lot of pining ED/EOD but i am up for it.

anyone hit anything like this before? any advice?

 

[perico13]

I think if you add a long ester test as a base and use your susp pre wo you'll be very happy, I'd keep the adex on hand and only run it if you feel the need. What dosages where u thinking? How long will the cycle be?

 

[arnoldisking]

do i have to drop the primo? i could get test e in it

i have a lot more research to do before i hit this and dosages i am still looking at.

Past cycles i have hit 750mg of test e, sus and 400 mg of deca. I guess tolerance isnt a problem.

Do you have any ideas on the dosages?

 

[arnoldisking]

I think if you add a long ester test as a base and use your susp pre wo you'll be very happy, I'd keep the adex on hand and only run it if you feel the need. What dosages where u thinking? How long will the cycle be?

do i have to drop the primo? i could get test e in it

i have a lot more research to do before i hit this and dosages i am still looking at.

Past cycles i have hit 750mg of test e, sus and 400 mg of deca. I guess tolerance isnt a problem.

Do you have any ideas on the dosages?

 

[perico13]

I'd do, 12weeks
Test e or c @ 500mg 1-12
Eq @ 600mg 1-12
Suspension @ 50mg 1-12 pwo

Just an outline if what I would do these dosages work for me idk what they'll do for you. What are your goals for this cycle?

 

[arnoldisking]

I'd do, 12weeks
Test e or c @ 500mg 1-12
Eq @ 600mg 1-12
Suspension @ 50mg 1-12 pwo

Just an outline if what I would do these dosages work for me idk what they'll do for you. What are your goals for this cycle?

put on a lot of lean size and something that will stay for sometime. rather then a big bloat which i normally get from deca.

i normally hit 750mg of test

what if you where gonna run tren/suspension/primo what would your dosages be?

 

[C.K.]

how long are you gonna run this? primo should be run min 12 weeks I couldn't imagine running test suspension that long wow and primo will def not counter act the aromatisation of suspension...

 

[arnoldisking]

how long are you gonna run this? primo should be run min 12 weeks I couldn't imagine running test suspension that long wow and primo will def not counter act the aromatisation of suspension...

suspension i have heard being run normally for 8 weeks. primo i was thinking of 12 or 14 weeks but is costly for phram primo!

But tren should keep it down a bit?
I dont get hit with many sides on cycle. i get mild gyno on dbol. nipples were hurting for a few days and they looked fluffy but when the test kicked in the pain went away. but if i go with this cycle i would run a A.I because i haven't hit tren, primo or suspension before so its new territory for me dont wanna take any chances with gyno!

 

[C.K.]

if you're gyno prone you should stay far far away from tren and susp I just got rid of puberty gyno so my last cycle was tbol/mast/primo (none of those aromatise and actually do the opposite) & just one shot of sustanon to keep things working down under... you might wanna rethink your whole cycle...

 

[perico13]

put on a lot of lean size and something that will stay for sometime. rather then a big bloat which i normally get from deca.

i normally hit 750mg of test

what if you where gonna run tren/suspension/primo what would your dosages be?

Ive never ran primo so I wouldn't be confortable giving advise on that compound. What I can tell you is that is a very expensive hormone, that's is very often counterfited.

I've never had any aromatization problems with susp, but then again everyone is different.

Why not do some test dbol and npp? That will put some nice size on you.

 

[arnoldisking]

if you're gyno prone you should stay far far away from tren and susp I just got rid of puberty gyno so my last cycle was tbol/mast/primo (none of those aromatise and actually do the opposite) & just one shot of sustanon to keep things working down under... you might wanna rethink your whole cycle...

i dont know if i am prone to it but its like the one thing i felt.

how painful are the shots of suspension? hcg bad?

 

[arnoldisking]

Ive never ran primo so I wouldn't be confortable giving advise on that compound. What I can tell you is that is a very expensive hormone, that's is very often counterfited.

I've never had any aromatization problems with susp, but then again everyone is different.

Why not do some test dbol and npp? That will put some nice size on you.

i am just looking for a change something new. tried of the same deca/test cycles or test only cycles.

and i have some of the stuff on hand and my source for primo is good. same dude i get all my gear from all pharma stuff never UG

 

[arnoldisking]

After a little bit more research some people really did get screwed with gyno on suspension so i will most likely not take the chance and even on other posts people recommenced Test prop since i am looking for a LMM cycle

1-12 Primo @400mg/ weekly
1-8 Tren E@40mg/ weekly
1-10 Prop @250mg/ EOD
8-12 Winny Tabs @ 50 -75mg/ ED (If really needed)
Arimidex on hand if needed.

Tren E would work better with prop?
Still need to come up with a PCT but was thinking of something like the last 2-3 weeks 50 MG of clomid

i normally dont really need a pct i ran deca and test e with out a pct and never got shut down (thank god) but a moderate PCT is something i would like to do since tren is in the cycle. Getting blood work later next week just to make sure i am doing good anyways.

 

[C.K.]

much better bro winny will control the progesterone from the tren and arimidex the estro so you shouldn't have problems

 

[arnoldisking]

much better bro winny will control the progesterone from the tren and arimidex the estro so you shouldn't have problems

what do you think about dosages and the lenghth of the cycle?

 

[C.K.]

A bit much on the prop but just a bit 100 mgs ED or 200 EOD is solid other then that it's perfect if you meant 400 mgs tren not 40

 

[arnoldisking]

A bit much on the prop but just a bit 100 mgs ED or 200 EOD is solid other then that it's perfect if you meant 400 mgs tren not 40

i get it in one shot bottles (its phram) so i dont wanna store it and stuff nor do i want to throw it out lol

yeah that was a typo

tren e would work best in this cycle because of the long esters? or tren A

 

[C.K.]

tren e is fine goes perfect with the primo 2 long esters

 

[arnoldisking]

tren e is fine goes perfect with the primo 2 long esters

what kind of pct would you run with this cycle?

 

[C.K.]

I'm running hcgenerate + psytoserms and the combo is freaking rediculous I'm still gaining into pct and am hornier now then on cycle... I'd throw in some forma for the tren pct anything more then that is useless

 

[theemperor]

I would bump up the Primo at 600mg a week, you will be better off in the long run, IMO.
Yes, its expensive but worth it. 200- 400mg on primo, IMO is not hitting the sweet spot.

 

[arnoldisking]

I would bump up the Primo at 600mg a week, you will be better off in the long run, IMO.
Yes, its expensive but worth it. 200- 400mg on primo, IMO is not hitting the sweet spot.

yeah i realized that after specking to someone; they said 1000mg which seems like a lot but then yet again primo has practically no side effects. primo is gonna put a big hole in my pocket since its phram -_- but wroth it.

i might end up hitting 800mg or 1000mg

primo is done every other day or every day?

 

[stevesmi]

because of the molecular structure of primo you will be forced to inject it often to get in 600mg per week.

you can do 3 injections per week at 2ml's each. and I would definately mix it with another oil to make for a smoother injection. primo is the thickest AAS i have ever used. i recommend 23G needle as well.

 

[zwhit]

I'd use Test E with this cycle. The other two are enanthate esters so it would make more sense to me.

 

[arnoldisking]

because of the molecular structure of primo you will be forced to inject it often to get in 600mg per week.

you can do 3 injections per week at 2ml's each. and I would definately mix it with another oil to make for a smoother injection. primo is the thickest AAS i have ever used. i recommend 23G needle as well.

i will have to sit down tonight and coordinate tren and prop shots so i cant hit them on the same day. dont want to injecting 7 days a week. i will run out of spots pretty quick, since i cant really pin my shoulders that much =[

 

[arnoldisking]

I'd use Test E with this cycle. The other two are enanthate esters so it would make more sense to me.

looking for quick gains and LMM, test e gave me a big husky look. but might consider running it with test later in the winter next year

 

[theemperor]

Just a suggestion:

I am going to run Test E, Primo, Masteron, and Beastdrol in my 15 week cycle. Since you said you want a LMM instead of the husky look, then I DO suggest to look into Masteron as well. Add some ND2SLIN at 3 caps a day, run a 30 minute fasted AM cardio first thing while taking ND2SLIN only right before your cardio. Primo has the Enathate long esther, you will need at least 600mgs and up to see the real lean quality gains at the later part of your cycle, not the forefront. DIET is key friend, its key!! Eat high protein diet with whole foods, proper water intake, fruits, almonnds, salmon, tuna.,etc too much to add. Just eat right, cardio, good workouts, and rest. NO sugars!!

 

[C.K.]

NO sugars!!

let me add to that no junk or fried foods either

 

[arnoldisking]

Just a suggestion:

I am going to run Test E, Primo, Masteron, and Beastdrol in my 15 week cycle. Since you said you want a LMM instead of the husky look, then I DO suggest to look into Masteron as well. Add some ND2SLIN at 3 caps a day, run a 30 minute fasted AM cardio first thing while taking ND2SLIN only right before your cardio. Primo has the Enathate long esther, you will need at least 600mgs and up to see the real lean quality gains at the later part of your cycle, not the forefront. DIET is key friend, its key!! Eat high protein diet with whole foods, proper water intake, fruits, almonnds, salmon, tuna.,etc too much to add. Just eat right, cardio, good workouts, and rest. NO sugars!!

Beastdrol is a supplement/pro hormone thing? i google it and some website mrsupps came up with it.......... have you tried it before?

 

[arnoldisking]

let me add to that no junk or fried foods either

lol that's a no brainier but being outside all the time and only eating subway sandwiches get annoying

 

[theemperor]

Beastdrol is a supplement/pro hormone thing? i google it and some website mrsupps came up with it.......... have you tried it before?

Beastdrol is superdrol.
Yes, I have tried it before and it gives you a bulk gains. Its dry gains, you wont see any bloat with it, drink LOTS of water with it. A liver protection is a must while taking Beastdrol.
Go to Mrsupps.com.

 

[stevesmi]

lol that's a no brainier but being outside all the time and only eating subway sandwiches get annoying

subway is trash. the breads and meat they use are cheap and laced with salts and processed. seriously do you notice the people who eat at subway look good? they market themselves as healthy but they aren't much better than any other fast food joint.

what you do is bake some chicken, grab some ezekial bread and pack it in a container if you are outside all the time..

 

[arnoldisking]

Beastdrol is superdrol.
Yes, I have tried it before and it gives you a bulk gains. Its dry gains, you wont see any bloat with it, drink LOTS of water with it. A liver protection is a must while taking Beastdrol.
Go to Mrsupps.com.

i have looked around online for reviews and all i hear is mixed reviews. Some people say its fake and does pretty much nothing and some people say it puts on 5-10lbs so on.

Whats your experience like on it? Pump? Size? Strength? Sideeffects? (If any)

Its a pro hormone? Aren't they illegal?

 

[Voxide3]

Sideeffects? (If any)

Was that part meant to be a subtle joke?


At any rate, don't worry about gear. You don't need it. Superdrol is not a PH. It is a real steroid.

 

[stevesmi]

beastdrol is a designer steroid. and its very real.

 

[Voxide3]

beastdrol is a designer steroid. and its very real.

It's methylated masteron, isn't it?

 

[arnoldisking]

Was that part meant to be a subtle joke?


At any rate, don't worry about gear. You don't need it. Superdrol is not a PH. It is a real steroid.

no the website the made it seem like there pretty much gonna be none =\

 

[arnoldisking]

subway is trash. the breads and meat they use are cheap and laced with salts and processed. seriously do you notice the people who eat at subway look good? they market themselves as healthy but they aren't much better than any other fast food joint.

what you do is bake some chicken, grab some ezekial bread and pack it in a container if you are outside all the time..

i normally just tell them load the sandwich with turkey, same thing goes for the deli's

diet needs to be worked up again since i took a little break after my deca sus cycle

 

[stevesmi]

i normally just tell them load the sandwich with turkey, same thing goes for the deli's

diet needs to be worked up again since i took a little break after my deca sus cycle

the turkey is salt laden and the bread is sugar laden.

might as well just grab a bag of salt and sugar and chug it down, thats all you are getting eating at that craphole. Jared went from obese to just fat eating there lol

 

[arnoldisking]

the turkey is salt laden and the bread is sugar laden.

might as well just grab a bag of salt and sugar and chug it down, thats all you are getting eating at that craphole. Jared went from obese to just fat eating there lol

when i am bulking thats what i normally have because the grilled chicken w/ brown rice just wouldnt go down. I have never really tried to cut down like people do but lets see how this cycle goes. CANT WAIT!

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

i agree with steve... look at the fat fuck they have for publicity... It was def. the 3 times a day he ate subway..... Not the 2 cardio sessions he was doing for an hour each time and all the other fast food he cut out... lol

Better of cooking chicken for 3-4 days and snacking on breast after breast.. gets old but gets results much quicker than subway... You hsould consider it a splurge meal everytime you eat there

 

[arnoldisking]

i agree with steve... look at the fat fuck they have for publicity... It was def. the 3 times a day he ate subway..... Not the 2 cardio sessions he was doing for an hour each time and all the other fast food he cut out... lol

Better of cooking chicken for 3-4 days and snacking on breast after breast.. gets old but gets results much quicker than subway... You hsould consider it a splurge meal everytime you eat there

Lmao "fat fuck" i think those ads are just bullshit. And when you drink soda with the sandwich it's fucks you even more.

I try to stay away from it as much as possible but go out with a girl or friends it's hard to sit there and not eat or be looking for something healthy. That's what fucks me the most!!!!

 

[Voxide3]

no the website the made it seem like there pretty much gonna be none =\

Don't mean to be a dick bro, but you need to be smarter than that. More gains = more side effects. Beastdrol is very side effect heavy especially when it comes to your liver.

It's all a marketing scam. Don't listen to the website. Use it only for the transaction and nothing else. Of course they're gonna make it sound like it's next best thing since sliced bread and flesh-lights.

 

[theemperor]

Don't mean to be a dick bro, but you need to be smarter than that. More gains = more side effects. Beastdrol is very side effect heavy especially when it comes to your liver.

It's all a marketing scam. Don't listen to the website. Use it only for the transaction and nothing else. Of course they're gonna make it sound like it's next best thing since sliced bread and flesh-lights.

Are you serious??? For real??
If you use a good liver protection, lots of water, cardio, etc, there is nothing to worry about. I taken superdrol already 3 times in spurts of years in between. I take my yearly blood tests and they all come out good. Marketing scam my ass...