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tren/test pct question
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ALIN
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TexasBB said:
dont run hcg for PCT run during cycle 500iu every 5 days.
JohnnyWest
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TexasBB said:
Using it while on is a preventative measure so you don't have to get the boys back up to size once the cycle is over, its common sense, but if you are nearing the end of your cycle I like 500iu ED for 10 to 14 days as needed, use it while the esters are clearing so you can jump right into the Hypotholamus and Pituitary part of the PCT since HCG itself is suppressive to the H/P. For example, start your hcg 4 days after your last shot becuase the esters will average 14 days to clear enough to begin recovery. A couple days before you're done the HCG start clomid at 50mg ED for 4 weeks, I don't like nolva because it kills my libido and it lowers igf-1 levels. You can try using the HCG EOD but you would probably end up using it ED anyway.
HCG's half-life is arounf 2 days if I remember right so that's why some people recommend it EOD, but in reality ED seems to "feel" better to me.
blut wump
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Since your cycle is almost over, the option to run HCG during the cycle has passed. If you run it during the cycle to maintain testicular volume then there's no need to have a long run of it at the end.
You're on short esters so you'll have some overlap of HCG usage and aas injections. You want to run the HCG to be finished with it a few days before you start your intended PCT.
My own preference is 1000 iu EOD for 10 days or 500 iu ED for ten days. Take a look in the PCT forum for more alternatives. Since you mention that your cycle is almost over, some of the other protocols might no longer be an option for you.
Assuming you've already mapped out when you end your cycle and when to begin PCT, count back a few days, three or four, and then count back another ten days. That's when to start your HCG protocal if you do a ten-day run. As I said, end your HCG just before you move onto the clomid etc.
You can run the clomid at a flat 50mg ED for 3-4 weeks. I wouldn't run the Nolva after running tren unless you've done it in the past without any gyno issues. There have been debates on here about it but there are suggestions that Nolva can increase the likelyhood of gyno after running tren.
After all this time, why is there not a sticky for HCG usage?
You're on short esters so you'll have some overlap of HCG usage and aas injections. You want to run the HCG to be finished with it a few days before you start your intended PCT.
My own preference is 1000 iu EOD for 10 days or 500 iu ED for ten days. Take a look in the PCT forum for more alternatives. Since you mention that your cycle is almost over, some of the other protocols might no longer be an option for you.
Assuming you've already mapped out when you end your cycle and when to begin PCT, count back a few days, three or four, and then count back another ten days. That's when to start your HCG protocal if you do a ten-day run. As I said, end your HCG just before you move onto the clomid etc.
You can run the clomid at a flat 50mg ED for 3-4 weeks. I wouldn't run the Nolva after running tren unless you've done it in the past without any gyno issues. There have been debates on here about it but there are suggestions that Nolva can increase the likelyhood of gyno after running tren.
After all this time, why is there not a sticky for HCG usage?
blut wump
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The concerns about clomid and eye-tracers are widely reported but I've not heard of their happening without a frontload. Run the clomid at a flat 50mg ED for 3 weeks.
You can reduce the AIFM dosage but keep it going until a couple of weeks beyond the end of SERM usage. By then you'll be down to one squirt ED or EOD.
You can reduce the AIFM dosage but keep it going until a couple of weeks beyond the end of SERM usage. By then you'll be down to one squirt ED or EOD.
needtogetaas
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yes much better during cycle and you should try dermacrin for pct after.less sides and a lot safer then clomid or nolva and it works better to.ALIN said:
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