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boxerjake

boxerjake

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Started my first tren / prop cycle this past friday so i'm now on day # 6 of 100mg prop 50 mg tren ace ED .

It olny took 2 days to grab hold ..... sunday night i seen every hour on the clock , maybe got 2 hour sleep in total , monday night was the same plus a bit of sweating , last night was fucking brutal !! Totaly soaked a pillow and sheets plus i may have got an hour sleep at best . I had goosebumps ,felt cold and was pouring water off my chest and forehead at the same time .

Considering you recover when you sleep i see no benifits to laying awake all night ...

Should i switch over to the enth ester or hex and see if the sides persist or just suck it up and ride it out . I don't know how long i'm going to last not sleeping

suggestions ?
 
I think all types of tren cause the same side effects; the only difference is that they affect some people more than others. Just bare with the side effects for a while from what i know your body will get used to the tren and with time the sides will either subside or decrease.
 
they should be less dramatic after very shortly. My tren insomnia usually lasts about 5-7 days. I take otc sleep aids when needed. I'd give it a few more days before dumping it.
 
bilter said:
they should be less dramatic after very shortly. My tren insomnia usually lasts about 5-7 days. I take otc sleep aids when needed. I'd give it a few more days before dumping it.
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Thats a relief ........... I'm running out of things to think about at 4:00 AM :)
 
boxerjake said:
Thats a relief ........... I'm running out of things to think about at 4:00 AM :)
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Tapped out on all the porn sites already? Try checking out basket weaving or knitting classes online at 4:00 a.m. or something? Just kidding man!

Good thread I will know what to expect should I decide to try tren
 
Drop the tren and grab some NPP. Sweets dreams of mass and strength thereafter.

Tren is for cows 30 days out from the slaughter. It is meant to get quick gains in muscle mass no matter what the consequences. Fucking poison. Hate it. :coffee:
 
I finished my first tren ace & test enth/prop cycle about a month or so ago... I have to say, I didn't experience any night sweats whatsoever, but I did sweat like a pig all day long though.... definitely felt more aggression and with the right diet I saw my bodyfat drop.... surprisingly, insomnia wasn't any more than my usual.... I would suggest taking some sleep aids, rotate brands.... try some herbal stuff (teas, valerian, chamomile, melatonin)... zinc & magnesium before bed also should help you fall asleep

I can't wait for my second tren cycle!!!
 
When I first used tren, the sides were the worst. Got the insomnia, which I'm prone to already, got the bad night sweats, etc. However, I used sleep-aids to get through the first week or two of insomnia, and the sides subsided after that. I just noticed the freakish increases in strength and maintained bodyweight while losing fat. I've used tren half a dozen times, ace, enth, and hex, and every time the sides are less noticeable but the results remain the same. Give it a few more days at least, try some OTC sleep aids or even prescription sleep-aids for a few nights, if the insomnia doesn't lessen after a few weeks, then I'd reconsider my position. Btw, switching to tren enth or hex would likely make the problem worse. Those are longer esters... they take longer to kick in, but your eventual blood levels are higher, leading to more sides. I prefer tren enth myself over tren ace, but i've used tren enough that the sides rarely bother me more than a few days.
 
boxerjake said:
Started my first tren / prop cycle this past friday so i'm now on day # 6 of 100mg prop 50 mg tren ace ED .

It olny took 2 days to grab hold ..... sunday night i seen every hour on the clock , maybe got 2 hour sleep in total , monday night was the same plus a bit of sweating , last night was fucking brutal !! Totaly soaked a pillow and sheets plus i may have got an hour sleep at best . I had goosebumps ,felt cold and was pouring water off my chest and forehead at the same time .

Considering you recover when you sleep i see no benifits to laying awake all night ...

Should i switch over to the enth ester or hex and see if the sides persist or just suck it up and ride it out . I don't know how long i'm going to last not sleeping

suggestions ?
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Tren E wont have the sides come on so strong, so quickly. It's more bearable. My past experience with it was all around positive. The sweats happened sporadically, and insomnia was the same.
 
I get NO sides from tren, I mean NO sides. I have never had the cough, no night sweats (I get them anyway so I sleep in front of a portable air conditioner), and no insomnia. I just get the benefits :)

God I love tren, but I hate ED injections.
 
boxerjake said:
Started my first tren / prop cycle this past friday so i'm now on day # 6 of 100mg prop 50 mg tren ace ED .

It olny took 2 days to grab hold ..... sunday night i seen every hour on the clock , maybe got 2 hour sleep in total , monday night was the same plus a bit of sweating , last night was fucking brutal !! Totaly soaked a pillow and sheets plus i may have got an hour sleep at best . I had goosebumps ,felt cold and was pouring water off my chest and forehead at the same time .

Considering you recover when you sleep i see no benifits to laying awake all night ...

Should i switch over to the enth ester or hex and see if the sides persist or just suck it up and ride it out . I don't know how long i'm going to last not sleeping

suggestions ?
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The sides will take longer to stop if you switch to a longer ester and decide you don't like Tren. I don't think it will a longer ester will change things much. You could get a script for Ambien, but you'll have to ride out the night sweats. I like Tren, but don't use it anymore cuz the sides are too much for me.
 
Thanx for the replies and concern gentleman .....

I'll stay the cource for awhile longer and try ride it out , i'm not much of a quiter once i've started something so unless the lack of REM sleep shows up negitive in my gains i'll tough it out .

The above comment about the vivid dreams is spot on !!!! The little time i did manage to nod off was like a mini series in the making WTF is with that ? Last time i dreamt like that was the first time i ever tried ZMA at 5 times the listed dosage .
 
I can say this boxer, Im on week 8 and have 2 weeks left of tren and prop cycle. Loved the results but i will probally never run tren again. To me its just not worth it. I got everything you are going through and more throughout this cycle. I started at tren e 500mgs a week then after week 4 switched to tri tren and am taking 450 mgs aweek, 1 cc on mon/wen/fri. The sides werent bad when i was on tren e but once i swithed it got really bad. Night sweats, insomnia, everday when i train i get short breathed and a nausious feeling in my throat. I just decided to ride it out. But i will never run tri tren again for sure and probally never run acetate either. Maybe a smaller dosage of tren e. The past 4 weeks have been rough on my body, but no pain no game. I hoped it would get better but it didnt. Good luck bro hopefully your body is just reacting to a new substance and it wont be as bad for u as it was or me. Then again i guess there are worse sides then wat we are complaining about.
 
boxerjake said:
Started my first tren / prop cycle this past friday so i'm now on day # 6 of 100mg prop 50 mg tren ace ED .

It olny took 2 days to grab hold ..... sunday night i seen every hour on the clock , maybe got 2 hour sleep in total , monday night was the same plus a bit of sweating , last night was fucking brutal !! Totaly soaked a pillow and sheets plus i may have got an hour sleep at best . I had goosebumps ,felt cold and was pouring water off my chest and forehead at the same time .

Considering you recover when you sleep i see no benifits to laying awake all night ...

Should i switch over to the enth ester or hex and see if the sides persist or just suck it up and ride it out . I don't know how long i'm going to last not sleeping

suggestions ?
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Thats about right..day one for me nothing...day 2 and i had the worse case of insomnia...hasnt happened since but i got the "sweats" now lol...im on week 2 of 50mgs of tren...doing prop/tren/eq
 
On tren, my dreams are the most vivid, crazy, and random experiences of my life. I've woken up a few times thinking I'm still in the dream, and the dream was real... I have had a LOT of sweating, and a lot of insomnia.

Maybe the tren insomnia causes you to get less sleep, but when you do finally sleep, you go into some kind of HEAVY REM sleep, that is more productive and more intense than regular REM? I dunno..

Somebody do a sleep study.
 
Luckily I only get the insomnia once or twice a week. I'm so tired the next day I can usually sleep pretty well the next night. I don't get night sweats but I do sweat like a mother any other time. The dreams are the most insane though, I started Tren about 2 weeks ago and for the last week have had the weirdest most vivid dreams...thats actually pretty cool.
 
lol @ all the dream comments ..... sometimes i catch myself dreaming and run rampet in my dreams doing whatever i want , now thats cool .
 
never understood why anyone liked tren, frequent shots, no sleep, night sweats, feel like shit, yea it might shread you like no other, but not worth it
 
when I started tren I slept about 8 hrs total for the whole first week


since then I've slept the best of my life, who knows?

(week 4 now)
 
I did the best i could to do tren. QV tren as a matter of fact. Paid extra dough for that shit. I had to give the bottle away. For 2 days my heartrate was so out of wack, I thought I was going to die. Mind you, I had done winstrol/eq/dbol/test/anavar/clen/t3....alot of shit. But I never expereinced what I did with tren. I was just one of those bro's that couldnt' handle it very well. No sleep, cough, and retarted ridiculous heart rate. And I was only doing 75mg EOD. Tren isn't for everybody....Good luck to you bro
 
I can sleep on it, and I'm on tren e so I'm only shooting 2x a week. I feel good brutha! Tren/eq/winny/bromo/prov when needed.
 
Slept through most of the night last night for the first time in 7 days , that side is getting less severe .

Now whats getting me is shin pain and ankle pain thats constant , i'm living on ibuprofin to deal with it .

I'll let her ride till the cycle is thru ... see what else pops up

PS : The sweating is insane !!!
 
boxerjake said:
Slept through most of the night last night for the first time in 7 days , that side is getting less severe .

Now whats getting me is shin pain and ankle pain thats constant , i'm living on ibuprofin to deal with it .

I'll let her ride till the cycle is thru ... see what else pops up

PS : The sweating is insane !!!
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I know this sounds crazy but when in order to combat the sweating when I'm running tren I fill up the bathtub with cold water and soak myself in there for 10-15 minutes. I get out shivering and with goosebumps all over my body.. I dry off hop in bed and enjoy the warmth and pass the hell out each and every time..

T-Matt
 
AhMadKooL said:
I think all types of tren cause the same side effects; the only difference is that they affect some people more than others. Just bare with the side effects for a while from what i know your body will get used to the tren and with time the sides will either subside or decrease.
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Very SOUND advice.................
 
black sheep said:
I get NO sides from tren, I mean NO sides. I have never had the cough, no night sweats (I get them anyway so I sleep in front of a portable air conditioner), and no insomnia. I just get the benefits :)

God I love tren, but I hate ED injections.
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no tren cough? consider yourself lucky
 
boxerjake said:
lol @ all the dream comments ..... sometimes i catch myself dreaming and run rampet in my dreams doing whatever i want , now thats cool .
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Those are called "Lucid Dreams" and thanks to Tren, I have them all the time. I can do triple back flips on my snowboard and fuck any women I want. Love it.
 
a bomb said:
Tren is for cows 30 days out from the slaughter. It is meant to get quick gains in muscle mass no matter what the consequences. Fucking poison. Hate it. :coffee:
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When you say it like you make me love it.lol....Im on QV Tren and some LSP NPP so im having the best of both worlds. I just stand there and i have veins all sticking out on my forearms......Love the LSP NPP and Tren. I think Im going to run Tren and test for a bulker next with some dbol if I can keep my BP under control. Then im goin to never do steroids again. :rolleyes: ;)
 
I feel wicked lethargic today myself and do get a slight cough after inject. I think these 3ml inj are taking there toll on me.
 
a buddy of mine has run tren numerous times. all times except once it's been enanthate. on enanthate he has no problems that are worth bitching about, but on acetate, he almost went to the hospital because his heart was going nuts and he thought he would die. he recommends to me whenever i do go to do tren that 200mg of enanthate is PLENTY per week. he is big fucker and benches 500 pounds and cycled tons of times, i went to hs with him. i trust what he says about the shit, don't know why people are using so much of this shit. hehe, makes me crack up. im still fucking scared to try it though. but i might love it.......................descisions
 
I know guys who took tren ace just twice a week and made gains. Had fina dick and you name it on just that kinda dose too.
 
boxerjake said:
Started my first tren / prop cycle this past friday so i'm now on day # 6 of 100mg prop 50 mg tren ace ED .

It olny took 2 days to grab hold ..... sunday night i seen every hour on the clock , maybe got 2 hour sleep in total , monday night was the same plus a bit of sweating , last night was fucking brutal !! Totaly soaked a pillow and sheets plus i may have got an hour sleep at best . I had goosebumps ,felt cold and was pouring water off my chest and forehead at the same time .

Considering you recover when you sleep i see no benifits to laying awake all night ...

Should i switch over to the enth ester or hex and see if the sides persist or just suck it up and ride it out . I don't know how long i'm going to last not sleeping

suggestions ?
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I typically used the Enth ester, when tren was an option for me because the sides were much more tolerable. I still sweated like crazy and had a bit of insomnia, but nothing compared to the Ace Ester.
 
I've never had a problem like that on Tren (knock on wood), but I keep my doses pretty low. My suggestion to anyone experiencing bad sides would be to back off the dose until the sides are gone, then ramp it up slowly until you find your threshhold. Biggest prob for me was gyno from using nolva with it... won't do that again and I'll always have letro and dostinex on hand!


Jacob
 
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