Tren Shortness of breath out of the blue?

[stevesmi]

I appreciate the input and your concerns are noted. I have not been non stop, I don't know how that came across but it's not the case. I'll mention also I've always been under the care of an endocrinologist who regularly takes labs. Trt As a form of male birth control is accepted by some docs. I do keep an eye on my heart. This next statement will definitely rattle some cages, but my heart issues take 2nd to quality of life. It's my lifestyle not just a hobby. I have echos done of my heart and my cholesterol is below 130, valves are good. That said... You are right I definitely need to start thinking of a complete strategy to keep my health a top concern.

TRT is not male birth control at all. and no doc would ever put someone on TRT out of college because of that reason. dude seriously you are new on this board but I want you to know right off the bat that we aren't idiots on here like other sites you have visited lol. so please don't make me out to be a fool.

i have no doubt today you are under the care of an endo but come on who are you kidding saying 10 years ago out of college you got put on TRT by a doc for that reason.

anyway the thread is going off topic so 1. welcome to the board.. and 2. i hope you got the answer you were seeking

your sentence that this is a lifestyle and not a hobby would not rattle cages on this site, you have us confused with bb.com lololol.. that statement is what most of us feel as well.

 

[Zmr31]

I appreciate the answer. I've seen a piece of info about this and I know tren can actually cause cardiomyopathy if used in excess du to this pathway causing the heart to work harder bc the blood is deoxygenated. Thank you for that though I'm not familiar with the embolism. That is interesting. I think I'm gonna go donate a liter of blood today because its long overdue and ill finish out the end of the week. If no improvement or it gets worse I will definitely drop it. Can't feel an elephant on my chest daily.

 

[Zmr31]

TRT is not male birth control at all. and no doc would ever put someone on TRT out of college because of that reason. dude seriously you are new on this board but I want you to know right off the bat that we aren't idiots on here like other sites you have visited lol. so please don't make me out to be a fool.

i have no doubt today you are under the care of an endo but come on who are you kidding saying 10 years ago out of college you got put on TRT by a doc for that reason.

anyway the thread is going off topic so 1. welcome to the board.. and 2. i hope you got the answer you were seeking

your sentence that this is a lifestyle and not a hobby would not rattle cages on this site, you have us confused with bb.com lololol.. that statement is what most of us feel as well.

First off I would never disrespect the board or its members. That's why I chose this board and not a teeny bopper board. Second I am by no means ignorant I have my masters in exercise physiology, and always read as much info as possible before I do anything. That said I've done some ignorant things when I was younger. As for the male birth control, I would not make that up. It's difficult to completely explain a situation on a short forum post. My doctor in Miami has always been very, how should I put it, understanding of people's wants. He monitors patients regularly but feels regardless of age if a person desires more of a feeling of well being he will help. It's not as black and white as I walked in and said I got a girl pregnant, can I have some testosterone. He'd laugh at me. I asked him if there were any long term health concerns to a proper trt and would it help me? It started with me asking him about going on trt So i could stay in the high 700-800 level and would that also shut me down. He said in no way it is as good or a replacement for as a vasectomy, be smart and use added protection. He also said hcg, hmg and clomid/nolva would help keep my body capable of being restored should I choose to come off and practice a fertility protocol. I am aware it's not the norm, but south Florida is pretty well known for its liberal docs. It was pill mills 5 urs ago and now it's "wellness youth centers". There are quacks here that will 100% use it as prevention. I'm not saying they are good physicians.
Anyway I just wanted to explain a bit so I don't come off arrogant OR ignorant. We are absolutely off topic. I promise you I am very respectful and appreciative of anybody's input. Especially veterans. Thank you for the welcome.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yeah bro i hear you, but i'm not sure if that doc had your long term best solution at heart.

i'm not sure if you would ever be able to come off HRT after being on this long. could it be done? i'm sure it could but it would be a hellish thing to go through. i would of asked that doctor to give me specific examples of those who came off after so long cause i would be very skeptical. no different than i would want to see reviews on a car i was about to buy and talk to people who drive it

 

[Zmr31]

Lol yeah I know I kinda wish I had frozen some of my boys for the future!! He has a ton of cops that see him and he said alot of them go through a heavy hcg/hmg protocol and are fine. My thoughts are that if guys like Arnold and Hulk hogan have kids it gotta be possible. These guys OFF is a gram of test a week! And PCT didn't even exist as a strategy back when Arnold was popping dbol. Maybe I should only date women with kids?! �� I appreciate your concern though, I completely agree I'm getting older and I need to look long term. This is definitely my last dance with anything other than low dose test.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ well the kid factor isn't my prime concern.. its recovering your HPTA later in life so you can product hormones on your own. going HRT when you are young is a huge decision for that reason. thats why i don't think I will go on HRT till much later in life, probably my 50's or later