tren only cycle

[hanibal]

it doesnt matter, if you run it long enough for it to work it will suppress you as much as a 6 year cycle by nature of it's extremely tight binding to the AR.

tren 'toxicity' is an messageboard fairy tale, but if you're worried about shutdown and have had issues in the past then watch out for tren... it is very suppressive

tren toxicity is not a "messageboard fairy tale!" it's potent-ass shit not to be used by those not knowing about AS use. with high dosage/long cycles it will cause HBP, kidney stress, liver stress, etc. i only use 50ED of tren ace and my BP goes up. i even had 2 nosebleeds while on that w/ prop. i had not had a nose bleed since i was a little kid. normally, and even while on other AS other than tren, my BP is fine. even drinking 1g+ of water daily doesn't make my piss clear while on tren, always that rusty toxic look. hmmm, wonder why...? fairytale my ass homes... all these reasons are why this past summer's cycle w/ tren was my last tren cycle... not to mention the nightsweats, rages, etc, etc, w/ tren. nothing gives people these sides like tren does...
- anyway use test w/ tren. if not u will be shut down HARD. even w/ test...

 

[solidspine]

Never run tren with deca!

why is that?

 

[Findizzy]

why is that?

They are both Nandrolones and will shut you down hard. And if you ever want to use your dick again afterward I'd advise against it.

 

[welloiledmachine]

ED at 75mgs. Just take a 50cc jug all in a row. Man, I feel like going into the garage and brewing up some fina right now. As a matter of fact, I think I will. Its the best

 

[Ulter]

Shoot it daily
You can run tren with Deca
You should not run tren without test*

*some people get away with it, most don't. When you don't you'll wish you'd never tried it. It's too easy to just add test to be leaving it out.

 

[solidspine]

Shoot it daily
You can run tren with Deca
You should not run tren without test*

I like to shoot it daily and have done it with deca at least 3 times,

Maybe shot me down, once was down along time because of deca



But fina is temping to do all by itself, even though I have never done a cycle with out test.

I’m not on a cycle now, but still on test, well just 1gram a week,

Fina seems to help me lose fat, seriously,

I think a little fina like 50mg a day for 5 weeks would be a good for the holidays,

Everyone likes an aggressive, smart ass hanging around,

 

[treneriffic]

I like to shoot it daily and have done it with deca at least 3 times,

Maybe shot me down, once was down along time because of deca



But fina is temping to do all by itself, even though I have never done a cycle with out test.

I’m not on a cycle now, but still on test, well just 1gram a week,

Fina seems to help me lose fat, seriously,

I think a little fina like 50mg a day for 5 weeks would be a good for the holidays,

Everyone likes an aggressive, smart ass hanging around,

youre on nothing now, just 1 gram of test a week? you got some serious hrt going on there!

Anyways I LOVE test+tren. I ran tren ace at 75mg ed for ten weeks in my last cycle.

 

[aeon]

I’d like to know where this notion that you have to take test when taking fina comes from. Certainly not from any scientific evidence since there isn’t any. And I love the rationale. “Tren will shut you down….so let me pump some more exogenous androgens in my body and see if I can prevent the issue”. This is laughable at best.

Never mind that testosterone is not strong enough to displace trenbolone from the androgen receptor and at 75 mg EOD or more you are definitely saturating your receptors, so even if the testosterone ester was to remain as is (which it won’t) it will almost surely circulate in your body with no effects whatsoever. However, the testosterone will not remain as is and that is why you will notice a difference. What do you think your body is going to do with all that exogenous aromatizable androgens? You guessed it. Convert it to estradiol! Now to some this might be a desirable effect, since estradiol is also quite anabolic, but if that is what you are seeking, why bother spending all that money on some black market testosterone? Just get yourself some good old Revalor and you are all set.

If you want to prevent shutdown issues from fina there is only one way to do it. Use HCG throughout the fina cycle. About 250 to 500 IU every five days is all you will need. When you are done with the fina take about 1500 IU every 5 days for the first 2 weeks and after your last HCG injection start a Clomid protocol.

 

[REFORMATA]

I’d like to know where this notion that you have to take test when taking fina comes from. Certainly not from any scientific evidence since there isn’t any. And I love the rationale. “Tren will shut you down….so let me pump some more exogenous androgens in my body and see if I can prevent the issue”. This is laughable at best.

Never mind that testosterone is not strong enough to displace trenbolone from the androgen receptor and at 75 mg EOD or more you are definitely saturating your receptors, so even if the testosterone ester was to remain as is (which it won’t) it will almost surely circulate in your body with no effects whatsoever. However, the testosterone will not remain as is and that is why you will notice a difference. What do you think your body is going to do with all that exogenous aromatizable androgens? You guessed it. Convert it to estradiol! Now to some this might be a desirable effect, since estradiol is also quite anabolic, but if that is what you are seeking, why bother spending all that money on some black market testosterone? Just get yourself some good old Revalor and you are all set.

If you want to prevent shutdown issues from fina there is only one way to do it. Use HCG throughout the fina cycle. About 250 to 500 IU every five days is all you will need. When you are done with the fina take about 1500 IU every 5 days for the first 2 weeks and after your last HCG injection start a Clomid protocol.

BOOM

Best advice Ive ever heard.

It actualy makes physiological sense.

K to you bro!