Tren E hurts like hell

[snutten_00]

Hello all there

Can say that I have made ​​the first time with Tren E 250mg/ml with sesame oil, 2% ba and bb 20%
Sesame oil, I cooked in the oven at 175c in 20 minutes, then I filter off everything with 0:45 Whatman filter, but it hurts after 24hours so that I can barely walk .

Anybody know why is it so, and how can I avoid it hurts so much ?

Hope all sensible answers

 

[semper03]

Hello all there

Can say that I have made ​​the first time with Tren E 250mg/ml with sesame oil, 2% ba and bb 20%
Sesame oil, I cooked in the oven at 175c in 20 minutes, then I filter off everything with 0:45 Whatman filter, but it hurts after 24hours so that I can barely walk .

Anybody know why is it so, and how can I avoid it hurts so much ?

Hope all sensible answers

That's just test e man. It normally hits me 24 hrs later but goes away in a few days. Eventually you'll get used to it. Unless you have warm swollen skin around the pin site you're fine.


Hunter Of Gunmen

 

[goin on 4T]

Intersting should not be painfull at 250mg. Also no need for all bb. I wonder if that is where ur pain is? Or maybe its not enanthate? Should try to melt some in the oven. E has a very low melting point.


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[semper03]

I do 750 wk split by 2. My prob is that it's a lot of oil for the muscle to break down at once so it gets sore.


Hunter Of Gunmen

 

[snutten_00]

After all day long search I found out that if you do not use sterile oil, you have to mix oil with 2% BA and 0.22 filters, then mix with gain and filter everything that the last product with 0.45 filters.
Or you just have filterera oil with 0:22 filters.

will be back with results after I have cooked on things and filtered with the 0:22 filters.
Hope there is enough

 

[semper03]

After all day long search I found out that if you do not use sterile oil, you have to mix oil with 2% BA and 0.22 filters, then mix with gain and filter everything that the last product with 0.45 filters.
Or you just have filterera oil with 0:22 filters.

will be back with results after I have cooked on things and filtered with the 0:22 filters.
Hope there is enough

Why not just buy filtered grape seed oil and filter the final product with 0.45um? I think I paid like $20 for 100ml. It comes pre filtered sterile with 0.22 already.


Hunter Of Gunmen

 

[Keith1]

Its a more painful compound but u will get used to.it

 

[snutten_00]

Believe or not, there's nothing you can buy in the fucking country called Sweden. All filters, pumps, needles, etc. I bought in the United Kingdom.
One should not buy a lot you avoid bringing customs eyes, so you have to find the one and the other for it to work. package of 4 filters of 0.22 is less than ordering the 500ml sterile oil.
A difference between large and small packages.
But if you have a good salesman for the oil to give me and I will contact him and ask how they send and if they want to send to Sweden

Believe or not, this is in Sweden

 

[semper03]

Believe or not, there's nothing you can buy in the fucking country called Sweden. All filters, pumps, needles, etc. I bought in the United Kingdom.
One should not buy a lot you avoid bringing customs eyes, so you have to find the one and the other for it to work. package of 4 filters of 0.22 is less than ordering the 500ml sterile oil.
A difference between large and small packages.
But if you have a good salesman for the oil to give me and I will contact him and ask how they send and if they want to send to Sweden

Believe or not, this is in Sweden

Idk if they ship to Sweden but this where I get all my stuff from.

http://www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com/


Hunter Of Gunmen

 

[goin on 4T]

I would always use a .22 filter, yes always. No need to double filter, use grocery store grape seed oil if you want. Then when its at 110 degrees F. filter it through a .22 filter. Prefiltered oil is a waste of money in my opinion. Good luck to you.

 

[semper03]

I would always use a .22 filter, yes always. No need to double filter, use grocery store grape seed oil if you want. Then when its at 110 degrees F. filter it through a .22 filter. Prefiltered oil is a waste of money in my opinion. Good luck to you.

Ehh $20 isn't that much and it beats the hell out of getting abscesses and infections.


Hunter Of Gunmen

 

[snutten_00]

There will be enough to filter twice to each on the safe side. Better to filter once too often than to get in trouble with infection.
Thanks for all the replies and tips

 

[goin on 4T]

$20 bucks? LOL You must be buying a liter. If you keep using that .45 filter you will get an absess.
Use a .22 filter and you wont get an infection; that is the point. The junk powder you are adding to the oil is hella more dirty than any oil. You need to use the .22 after its been heated up to temp for atleast 20min and baking the oil does not sterilize it either.

 

[snutten_00]

I have at home 0.45 Whatman and it hurts as I said, now I'll just order 0.22 and test. I do not care about the 20 bucks, I want the pure product and want to avoid pain.

 

[snutten_00]

Shoud i buy Nylon filter or you use some other type of filter ???

 

[Mh48500]

I also think that prefiltered oil is overpriced. Since you have to filter to sterilize anyways why pay more? I thjnk the difference of a liter price is $35 for unfiltered vs. $115 for filtered, thats a lot.

Also, 20% BB in my opinion is crazy.

 

[Mh48500]

Shoud i buy Nylon filter or you use some other type of filter ???

I have had great success with PVDF filters. I also have a ton of problems getting supplies here in Mexico. Oil, filters, BB, etc are almost impossible and if available about 20 times more expensive than the states.

 

[snutten_00]

I have had great success with PVDF filters. I also have a ton of problems getting supplies here in Mexico. Oil, filters, BB, etc are almost impossible and if available about 20 times more expensive than the states.

Same here

 

[semper03]

$20 bucks? LOL You must be buying a liter. If you keep using that .45 filter you will get an absess.
Use a .22 filter and you wont get an infection; that is the point. The junk powder you are adding to the oil is hella more dirty than any oil. You need to use the .22 after its been heated up to temp for atleast 20min and baking the oil does not sterilize it either.

Hell no, 1 L is 1000 ml man, that would take forever to run through. I have 100 ml and that will last a while. I make my own tren in 20ml increments every other 7 weeks. I use pre filtered gso at 0.22 and filter through a micro filter after adding powder then cook it and re filter with 0.45. Result? Pure sterile liquid gold my man. Never had an infection or felt any pain but great gains.


Hunter Of Gunmen

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Hello all there

Can say that I have made ​​the first time with Tren E 250mg/ml with sesame oil, 2% ba and bb 20%
Sesame oil, I cooked in the oven at 175c in 20 minutes, then I filter off everything with 0:45 Whatman filter, but it hurts after 24hours so that I can barely walk .

Anybody know why is it so, and how can I avoid it hurts so much ?

Hope all sensible answers

Change to grapeseed.

The only reason why ud have pain is due to a crash in the muscle only prop, aceatate, phenny...esters do this bc there not soulabe in oil. Should not be painfull period! Could move up 3:2 or 3:18

 

[snutten_00]

Change to grapeseed.

The only reason why ud have pain is due to a crash in the muscle only prop, aceatate, phenny...esters do this bc there not soulabe in oil. Should not be painfull period! Could move up 3:2 or 3:18

I'll try to find grapeseed, but as I said it's really difficult to find attained in this country.
Are you saying that Tren E (powder) and EQ (liquid) would not work with the sesame oil?

Are you also want me to do 3% BA and 2% BB or what do you mean by (Could move up 3:2 or 3:18)

I bought my BB and BA on ebay, now I'm curious, have BB and BA be sterile?

Benzyl Benzoate 50ml High Purity Top Grade. | eBay

Benzyl Alcohol 50ml High Purity. | eBay

Hope i vill get all the answers for so many many questions

 

[TheRippedReverend]

I'll try to find grapeseed, but as I said it's really difficult to find attained in this country.
Are you saying that Tren E (powder) and EQ (liquid) would not work with the sesame oil?

Are you also want me to do 3% BA and 2% BB or what do you mean by (Could move up 3:2 or 3:18)

I bought my BB and BA on ebay, now I'm curious, have BB and BA be sterile?

Benzyl Benzoate 50ml High Purity Top Grade. | eBay

Benzyl Alcohol 50ml High Purity. | eBay

Hope i vill get all the answers for so many many questions

Ba is the sterilizer. No grapeseed is jus less painful

 

[zedhed]

GSO is the very best to use for all gear that is oil base.

 

[snutten_00]

Ba is the sterilizer. No grapeseed is jus less painful

I know att Ba is the sterilizer, but I wondered if BA liquid must be in a sterile vial?
Both BB and BA I bought is in plastic bottles of 50ml. wonder if it might affect the quality of the finished product?

 

[goin on 4T]

I know att Ba is the sterilizer, but I wondered if BA liquid must be in a sterile vial?
Both BB and BA I bought is in plastic bottles of 50ml. wonder if it might affect the quality of the finished product?

No it doesn't need to be sterile when mixing as the powder is definitely not sterile. The end product becomes sterile after filtering through a .22 filter (.45 is not good enough, there is no such thing as good enough, it is either sterile or it isn't.). It will not decrease quality in fact it has no relation to quality. The most important factor is powder quality, then oil type and quality, than use the least amount of bb required for suspension. Which are arguable by chemist. But if you get crap powder you are definitely going to get crap product.
Good luck!


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[Mh48500]

I know att Ba is the sterilizer, but I wondered if BA liquid must be in a sterile vial?
Both BB and BA I bought is in plastic bottles of 50ml. wonder if it might affect the quality of the finished product?

Technically BA is not the sterilizer. Like Goinon4T says, filtering will sterilize it. BA inhibits the growth of bacteria(bacteriostatic), does not sterilize.

 

[snutten_00]

thanks boys

 

[kwantz]

holy you guys are making this way more complicated than it needs to be... I usually make test enanthate at 350mg/ml Painless 2%ba and 20%bb
tren enth 300 2%ba and 20%bb...
Last year I made 200mg test enth, 150tren, 150EQ mixture, using the same 2%ba and 20%bb... no pain whatsover. just last week using the same amount of BA and BB made Test 500 painless (cyp 250mg/enth 250mg)

BB is painless and is great for thinning out the oil. People have injected 1cc of pure BB to even prove this on other homebrew boards... BB is dirt cheap, why not use it? you just said you paid 20bucks for oil. Why not go the extra mile if you really want painless gear and get BB?

like the other guy said, you can get GSO at the grocery store for 5 bucks a liter... use a .20um filter,, done deal... been homebrewing for almost 10 years now. never once for myself or test patience have ever had any type of abcess or infection...

dont make this any more complicated than it needs to be, a monkey can do it.