Tren E/ace together?

[SwollenMember_18]

I'm trying to get super lean so by the time I start my next cycle I can kick it with drol and not look too soft.. I just want to try it so bad . After this cycle I bought some var and clen for the period between cycles I'll be on my trt dose of test which is 200cyp 50mg var until I run out and I only have 100 unfortunately and there 20mg that's why I'm running it so low so I can stretch it out.. If you think I should just go to 60mg for a little shorter of a time let me know this is my first run with var.. As for the clen it's my first time as well ill be doing the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off tapering on both ends protocol.. My diet will stay on point and cardio will stay up.. But man this winny is treating me a lot better this time the joint pain has been slim to non and there is absolutely no complaints about that lol.

I'd go to 60 for a bit shorter time with the var, that's where it started to shine for me last time.

And as for the Clen, man I would run that shit like 5-6 weeks straight through... I honestly believe the receptor downgrade is way over hyped. I run my Clen blasts 4-6 weeks depending on my bodyfat and it works it's magic the whole time as long as my diet and cardio are on point. Just taper up a bit slower so by your 4th or 5th week your peaking at the 160-200mcg's and it'll still be doing its job! The sides will dissipate, but don't fall into the trap of thinking it's stopped working, your body just becomes accustomed to the upregulated metabolism. The fat loss will still be steady and noticeable.

 

[bigorse]

I'd go to 60 for a bit shorter time with the var, that's where it started to shine for me last time.

And as for the Clen, man I would run that shit like 5-6 weeks straight through... I honestly believe the receptor downgrade is way over hyped. I run my Clen blasts 4-6 weeks depending on my bodyfat and it works it's magic the whole time as long as my diet and cardio are on point. Just taper up a bit slower so by your 4th or 5th week your peaking at the 160-200mcg's and it'll still be doing its job! The sides will dissipate, but don't fall into the trap of thinking it's stopped working, your body just becomes accustomed to the upregulated metabolism. The fat loss will still be steady and noticeable.

Also clen will drop thyroid over a period of time, i strongly suggest adding in t3/t4 even if only at a replacement dose.

 

[trt newbie]

I know I read that before.. I think I'm going to play it safe and just do the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.. I don't know if I want to do t3 I'm not trying to fuck with anymore hormones then I'm already fucking with lol I'm going to run taurine and L-carnitine with it too and when I'm not on that I'm going to be on phenadrine it's these diet pills with caffeine green tea raspberry all that shit.. There actually really good I'm on them right now but I'm not taking 4 a day I only take 1 in the morning before breakfast and while I'm at work I'll take another one some times.. Especially when I'm all lethargic from the Tren... That's the only reason I want to get off the Tren for a little lol the lethargy is killing me and I don't want it to fuck with my job at all.. Need money for some more gear haha.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

225 morning weight boyyyys... Tapering off to about .5ish pounds a day gain right now. Staying relatively lean. Strength is getting stoooopid!

Had 3 plates on for my underhand barbell rows today was getting 8 clean and my grip was failing before my strength was. Can't wait to do a few deadlifts next week and give flat bench a go tomorrow too!! Haven't done to many heavy compounds since starting the drol but noticing extra reps coming easier and just smashing through workouts like they ain't no thang!

Summer gainin baby!!

 

[trt newbie]

225 morning weight boyyyys... Tapering off to about .5ish pounds a day gain right now. Staying relatively lean. Strength is getting stoooopid!

Had 3 plates on for my underhand barbell rows today was getting 8 clean and my grip was failing before my strength was. Can't wait to do a few deadlifts next week and give flat bench a go tomorrow too!! Haven't done to many heavy compounds since starting the drol but noticing extra reps coming easier and just smashing through workouts like they ain't no thang!

Summer gainin baby!!

Haha fuck ya bro get that shit!! I always use wrist straps on exercises like that I get pissed off when my grip fails plus my forearms are already big enough they'd like as big as my biceps lol. Damn I can't wait to start some drol especially with Tren fuck I'll feel like super man haha I want to try some test and Tren suspension too for a pre workout one of these days too.. So far my max bench is 315 I can get it up like 3-4 times.. I want to get up to 405 so maybe that drol will help at least 350 man I hope I stay lean on that shit too if not I'll have to do a few all protein days a week haha. Glad your loving it tho bro stay killing it.. I wanna see some pics too soon I gotta check out those gains

 

[trt newbie]

Haven't wrote on this thread in a while lol I'm weighing 220 right now just took my last Tren ace injection yesterday so I'm only on 300 test and 75-100mg of winny till I run out then back on my trt test which is 200 cyp then I'm adding clen and var then once that's done I'll give my liver a 2-3 week break then back to the blast with a drol kick super excited if you can't tell hoping to break some pr's

 

[Saiyan7]

Man that's an insane amount of orals. Have you ever had bloods check for liver enzymes? You're hitting one right after another and 2-3 weeks is such a small off time. I am not saying don't lol. Just saying be careful.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Ayyyy the long lost thread hahaha!

Atta boy, I'm clockin 225ish now. Still another 1.5 weeks of droll to hopefully get another 5 pounds then my goal would be complete for this blast!!! Fuck my diet has been like not even that clean lately either cuz we're moving so lots of eating out and semi clean meals but stayin surprisingly lean... Juuuust the strongest I've ever been in my life right now too, 225 on the bench is literally pebbles now... Repped out 22x clean the other day with no spot hahaha droll powerrrrr

 

[trt newbie]

Fuck ya I can't wait man.. But no I'm about to get bloods in between the winny and var. I didn't mention I'm taking a few weeks off between the winny and var too I just have to wait a few weeks to a month to get my test levels down to normal then do the var and clen then wait a little then hop on my next blast with the drol.. My liver feels fine tho I take liv52 daily usually twice so 6 tablets total 3 and 3.. So after this winny and test levels drop back to normal I'm getting bloods and will check liver enzymes with everything and if everything is good then I'll hop on that var and clen.. I take my liv52 when I'm off the orals too but I only take 3 in the morning.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Fuck ya I can't wait man.. But no I'm about to get bloods in between the winny and var. I didn't mention I'm taking a few weeks off between the winny and var too I just have to wait a few weeks to a month to get my test levels down to normal then do the var and clen then wait a little then hop on my next blast with the drol.. My liver feels fine tho I take liv52 daily usually twice so 6 tablets total 3 and 3.. So after this winny and test levels drop back to normal I'm getting bloods and will check liver enzymes with everything and if everything is good then I'll hop on that var and clen.. I take my liv52 when I'm off the orals too but I only take 3 in the morning.

Yeah that's a good call I should get my bloods done as well, probably a couple weeks after my drol run I'll go get em... Liver definately took a lil but of a toll this year, ran like 3 separate orals, one with each big boast whoops. And the ol tren~bomb not helping the case either. Still feel good tho, clear piss, huge appetite, no discolour in my skin or eyes... Thank god I don't drink or do drugs no more hahaha I might be a goner