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tren drastically changes physique even on crappy diet??!

the elite addict said:
I have done tren quite a few times. I know it was real because I made it myself. Ive never experienced tren cough or a medicine taste either.

thats awesome. i hope im that lucky... when u get the medicine taste tho, do u automatically get the cough right after? or can u just get medicine taste w out the cough?
 
P4D2A022 said:
was this ur first run w tren? i just bumped mine up to 75mg eod today. today is day 7. after reading ur post im starting to think if i should drop it down to 50mg eod


This was not first time with Tren. Ran it a few years ago for a couple of months. That was QV 75mgs/ml did that eod,and it was good. This last time it seemed to be alot stronger, and I could feel it about 1/2 hr after shot. If you feel ok at 75 stay with that,if not go down to 50. Everyone is different. The other thing I would change for next time, I would do a pre cycle cutting phase to get even better gains
 
P4D2A022 said:
what do u mean a pre cycle cutting phase hitman? honestly never heard of it before



Pre-Cycle cutting phase is when you get rid of extra body fat before a cycle to optimize gains as well as cuts. With the lower body fat you will decrease your chances of converting to progestrone w/ tren or estrogen w/test. Overall the quality of gains is improved, vs starting with a higher b/f
 
TheGooch said:
My 2 Cents:

This is my second run on Tren. Tren is not a miracle drug. First time, I really didn't eat like I was supposed to. Results: Bigger, but not leaner. Stayed at 17-18% BF.

Bottom line is: you don't eat right, you're wastin' your time and money. I'm stickin' to a fairly strict eating regimen this time and I'll post results mid June!


Gooch,

When you say your gonna eat right do you mean low carns/ high protein/ moderate fat? WIm nearly 2 weeks in a tren/ prop/ winny cycle. How many grams carbs a day/ calories you lookin at?
 
H.I.T.MAN07 said:
Pre-Cycle cutting phase is when you get rid of extra body fat before a cycle to optimize gains as well as cuts. With the lower body fat you will decrease your chances of converting to progestrone w/ tren or estrogen w/test. Overall the quality of gains is improved, vs starting with a higher b/f

oh ok. that def sounds like a good idea. im considering that before my next cut cycle now. thanks man
 
I actually did that this time, and lost a lot of weight before I started... I was coming off a shoulder injury which didnt allow me to workout for about 8 months. I started gettin a little extra body fat so for a month I went on a serious diet cutting out carbs and fat and lost about ten lbs of fat.. and got down to the lowest weight Ive been in about 8 years probably.. and Im 5'6 so without being able to workout and dropping all that weight i was light. I worked out natty for 2 months and gained back that ten lbs in muscle, and bf% was lower, now that im starting the tren cycle, the lean gains should be quality.
 
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