Tren dosages - first time tren user

[stevesmi]

Steve, what is your opinion on tren a ED vs EOD injections?

i have tried both ways and saw no difference. i have even done ace E3D on occasion when i have missed an injection. i mean once the esters are built up in the system they aren't just gonna dissapear out of the body if you miss a day's injection.

alin above knows his shit and i give him a lot of respect so if you don't mind injecting then go ED based on his recommendation of word of mouth cause he does know a lot of top juicers.. for someone like me who hates injecting then EOD is the way to go

 

[rage22]

you don't need to run test with tren at all. if someone cannot gain on tren alone then their workouts must be awful.

first I heard this as well. What about the need for test to maintain normal body functions? At least at a trt dose?

Maybe I'm just not up with it all but I swear Ive always seen test should be the staple of all cycles. So if you run any other anabolic, you need test as your base.

What's the reasoning behind this method? Aside from less sides ( which I like to hear! Test 200mg/ tren 100-200mg ew was my next cycle setup) does tren really do everything in the body that normal test will do for you?it just seems to mo from a brief look at the idea... Tren = shuts you down hard, quick. It will not convert into estrogen. So your estrogen levels would be nil. That's not good at all! Just for my own information... How does this all work out in your body?

 

[rage22]

Read this thread if your thinking about tren on it's own. http://forums./showthread.php?50815...out-TREN-and-how-to-use-it-effectively-thread!

Specially pg 4..... I'm up for debate but I really don't see how tren alone is a good idea.

 

[zwhit]

Read this thread if your thinking about tren on it's own. http://forums./showthread.php?50815...out-TREN-and-how-to-use-it-effectively-thread!

Specially pg 4..... I'm up for debate but I really don't see how tren alone is a good idea.

Its definitely not a good idea for a first time tren user.

 

[stevesmi]

first I heard this as well. What about the need for test to maintain normal body functions? At least at a trt dose?

Maybe I'm just not up with it all but I swear Ive always seen test should be the staple of all cycles. So if you run any other anabolic, you need test as your base.

What's the reasoning behind this method? Aside from less sides ( which I like to hear! Test 200mg/ tren 100-200mg ew was my next cycle setup) does tren really do everything in the body that normal test will do for you?it just seems to mo from a brief look at the idea... Tren = shuts you down hard, quick. It will not convert into estrogen. So your estrogen levels would be nil. That's not good at all! Just for my own information... How does this all work out in your body?

i fucking love tren only cycles.

your entire arguement is just media propaganda. tren shuts you down just like any other AAS. its the PROLACTIN that causes tren dick. combat the prolactin and you are g2g. your estrogen would not be nil. i put up bloods from my last years tren only cycle, look it up. its right there in black and white for everyone to see.

its funny the only guys who argue against it either don't know what they were doing or never tried it.. every single person who does tren only and does it right PM's me back and says they loved it.

 

[stevesmi]

Its definitely not a good idea for a first time tren user.

i totally disagree. by keeping cycles short and low dosages its way easier to recover.

so not sure how stacking a bunch of things together on a tren run is a good idea. less is better.

tren only cycle is way easier to recover from then stacking tren with test in my experience and the reasons are obvious.

 

[stevesmi]

Read this thread if your thinking about tren on it's own. http://forums./showthread.php?50815...out-TREN-and-how-to-use-it-effectively-thread!

Specially pg 4..... I'm up for debate but I really don't see how tren alone is a good idea.

I'm up for a debate anytime.. how bout the thousands of guys who have run tren + test who have had major problems. i can google thousands of links for you.

point is stacking test with tren doesn't cover up someone who doesn't know what prolactin is or how to PCT.

the difference here is I have run tren + test, tren alone, tren + var, tren + dbol, tren + winny.. i'm very experienced running the stuff every which way. with or without test. both ace and E.. different brands, i've ran as low as 200 a week to as high as 450 a week.. so I can give a first hand analysis backed with blood tests. so take that for what is worth. if you haven't run it without test then you should give it a shot and make your own mind up. just run it the right way no matter what you do. thats the only thing I ask.

I cringe when i read threads from guys who ran tren and had problems, its so easy to run that no one should ever have a problem with it.

you should run certain AAS with test. primo is an example.. masteron is another. cause those definately need an anabolic KICK to them to get truely the best results. but with tren? hell no you don't need to run anything with it... it does it all

 

[rawfitness99]

I've been sticking to trt test dose(250mgs) plus 400-600 tren... But I might try tren/var no test this go around and have a test cycle in my pocket... Worth a try! Starting next week... I'll make the decision by then... Would live for more people to comment on this!

 

[Power36]

So how much caber with Tren, especially if you are using Mast and at what doses Mast needed to avoid prolactin issues with Tren?

Got me wondering about a Tren+Primo blast in winter, and what kind of doses would need caber or would adding Masteron at a certain dose be better than using Caber?

Im on a short Tren trial now, never used it before...EOD 100mg, just for 3-4 weeks as a buddy gave me a free bottle. I was already in middle of a Primo+Mast blast (Im on HRT). Holy balls, unless its the Mast and Primo kicking in at week 5 or so, two weeks of Tren and certain lifts I can tell I feel like Im doubling reps of what I could do previously! This Tren stuff is either no joke or adding it right at the 5 week mark of Primo and Mast makes it feel like its insane strength gain stuff.

I was scared of sides...I dont feel anything negative other than sweating my nuts off, bringing 3 shirts to gym now to keep changing, cant sleep well, dog tired during day but still strong in gym, MMA is harder now hah...and I feel like my appetite is surpressed. But crazy eating less, sleeping less, getting stronger! If I could sleep on this stuff Id get another bottle and run it for 6 weeks haha.