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Tren and sleep

semper03

semper03

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Has anyone had any problems trying to sleep while taking tren? I take 1cc eod @ 100mg/ml and I've been loving the loss of bf and gain of muscle but damn I can't sleep for shit! I pin at 2pm go to work at 4 get off at 12 and work out till 1. I know I'm tired and need to sleep but once I pass out I wake up in a puddle of sweat! This happens about 3 times a night. My mind doesn't seem to want to shut down. I tried taking Tylenol pm and it didn't do shit. Anyone have any suggestions as to what you used to sleep or any other remedies other than stop taking tren?


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
are you running caber?

that will offset the sleep problems.. on my 3rd tren run now and never had an issue sleeping. i take a small dose of caber every 3-4 days before bed and i sleep like a freakin rock.

not even for the sleeping problems you should be running anti-prolactin on tren. makes for a smoother recovery when you come off

i must have bunk tren though cause everytime i've run tren i've never had these horrible sides that guys describe. never woken up in a puddle of sweat once. only sides i notice is pumps and de-hydration. then again i run conservative dosages
 
A low dose of caber every couple days and an N2Sleep a night will knock you flat out cold. I had the same problem until my N2Sleep came in and after that my girlfriend had to check to see if I was still breathing. World of difference bro. Plus you wake up ready to run a marathon, and you're gonna wanna prevent any prolactin based problems anyhow!

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I am running 40 ed and I do have some sleeping issues not bad though. I pin mine about 8 am. Night sweats about once a week or less. So you work out till 1 AM? Then try to sleep? I can't workout within about 4 hours of trying to sleep. I just won't fall asleep.
 
stevesmi said:
are you running caber?

that will offset the sleep problems.. on my 3rd tren run now and never had an issue sleeping. i take a small dose of caber every 3-4 days before bed and i sleep like a freakin rock.

not even for the sleeping problems you should be running anti-prolactin on tren. makes for a smoother recovery when you come off

i must have bunk tren though cause everytime i've run tren i've never had these horrible sides that guys describe. never woken up in a puddle of sweat once. only sides i notice is pumps and de-hydration. then again i run conservative dosages
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No I'm not running caber. Not exactly sure as to what it is other than a tree lol I was planning on running N2sleep but haven't got around to ordering it. what's a good anti prolactin supp? I make my own tren from fina so I know it's legit gear. It's cheaper this way and pretty easy.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
^^^ yeah will be a lot smoother run
Lets get this straight... your running tren and don't even know how run it properly. any research and know can jack with your sleep bad. as well as other prolactin sides
 
Idk about in the usa but in canada u have to get it from the doctor as a prescription. The full name is cabergoline and the brand names are dostinex or something like that. Actually, im not too sure if you can order it online from canada but i have never tried. And u can run mayb 0.5mg every 2 days or every day depending on u yourself
 
semper03 said:
Has anyone had any problems trying to sleep while taking tren? I take 1cc eod @ 100mg/ml and I've been loving the loss of bf and gain of muscle but damn I can't sleep for shit! I pin at 2pm go to work at 4 get off at 12 and work out till 1. I know I'm tired and need to sleep but once I pass out I wake up in a puddle of sweat! This happens about 3 times a night. My mind doesn't seem to want to shut down. I tried taking Tylenol pm and it didn't do shit. Anyone have any suggestions as to what you used to sleep or any other remedies other than stop taking tren?


Hunter Of Gunmen
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Try 3mg of Melatonin and/or some ZMA before bedtime.
 
Had the same problem until I started taking Prami, ramp it up though as it made me nausas the first few times I took the Prami
 
I need to try the Caber next time I run the Tren.

In my experience with Tren, I took it in 2 cycles and both times I got great and amazing strength, good gains. But on the sides, I got night sweats all the time, no biggie but the Insomnia was there and there were many nights that I experienced anxiety real bad. It was kinda tough! I dont think Stevemi got bunk gear, I think that he had the right supps to help out and also some people may NOT experience all the "common sides" and thats a good thing if your fortunate.
 
Dostinex from chemicalneed will have your rats snoozing stress free ;) mine loved it

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Chemicalneed has prami. Pretty much the same, just liquid. Ramp it up though so you don't puke

Btw you currently enlisted?

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Change your pinning to 50mgs every day at the same time . More frequent injections with tren the less sides . When I first started tren the first three days I've cycle I had sleeping and aggression problems but they have already reduced to at least half as bad as they were very manageable
 
Jakegusman said:
Change your pinning to 50mgs every day at the same time . More frequent injections with tren the less sides . When I first started tren the first three days I've cycle I had sleeping and aggression problems but they have already reduced to at least half as bad as they were very manageable
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I don't want to pin ED, OED drives me nuts as it is. I added melatonin to my vitamins before bed and it keeps me asleep all night. I still have a little bit of the night sweats but as long as I sleep that doesn't bother me.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
I've have searched the net far and wide to get a difinative answer on how long the life of the acetate ester is everyone says 1-3 days well there's a massive difference in one or three . Besides body reaction from hormone over the years I have noticed with myself anyway that keeping the hormone levels stable is best way to avoid sides . The sudden loss of the compound and sudden rise is what will cause a lot of shit especially with sumthen as potent as tren . Shooting everyday same time has made sides with tren minimal for me a
 
I just finished up a 5 week run of Tren E and yeah from day 1 I had night sweats and insomnia. It never went away, granted I did not run Caber and probably should have. I never felt any aggression and no signs of gyno but did get the anxiety. That was probably the worst part and why I kept my cycle to 5 weeks. Tren is great if you can deal with the sides.
 
I also just EAS'd Oorah I appreciate your service

N2Sleep is some good shit too bro. Sometimes on melatonin I would wake up several times in the night but with N2Sleep id just take a cap, down my night protein shake and sleep like a baby

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^^^^^^ what unit were you with? I tried to get some N2sleep but they were sold out of it and a lot of other things do I had to go for the next best thing. I never ran caber and also never had any signs of gyno.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
2/5

Did you try mrsupps? Sometimes they'll have stuff when ntbm is out of stock. I always found melatonin only worked for me in low doses. Seems like the more I would take the more I would wake up restless in the middle of the night

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I'm a weapons guy too 0331...miss the fk out of it but the 1st Civ Div is treating me nice lately. If you gotta go with melatonin just be careful with your dose so it doesn't make you sleep like shit and wake up feeling like someone drugged you

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semper03 said:
Has anyone had any problems trying to sleep while taking tren? I take 1cc eod @ 100mg/ml and I've been loving the loss of bf and gain of muscle but damn I can't sleep for shit! I pin at 2pm go to work at 4 get off at 12 and work out till 1. I know I'm tired and need to sleep but once I pass out I wake up in a puddle of sweat! This happens about 3 times a night. My mind doesn't seem to want to shut down. I tried taking Tylenol pm and it didn't do shit. Anyone have any suggestions as to what you used to sleep or any other remedies other than stop taking tren?


Hunter Of Gunmen
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Definitely use caber on tren.

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bigbassturd said:
I'm a weapons guy too 0331...miss the fk out of it but the 1st Civ Div is treating me nice lately. If you gotta go with melatonin just be careful with your dose so it doesn't make you sleep like shit and wake up feeling like someone drugged you

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0317. I welcomed camp couch when I first got out but it got really boring cause of the fact I was use to being so active. I'm about halfway through the door on a contractor job so hopefully I'll be going back to Afghanistan next month.

The melatonin I got was from Walmart, it came in a 3mg pill form and just one of those bad boys make me want to crash in about 30 min.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Yeah that's where the money is for sure. I've been there twice and both times I was a single LCpl so you can imagine the huge paychecks I had rolling in...like almost 4 figures...haha I would contract in a heartbeat though those guys make bank and only do 6 month stints.

Do you ever get night sweats or anxiety on tren? It makes me sweat like a pig at night and I have crazy ass dreams if I don't run prami or caber with it

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I always had trensomnia. This cycle I am running caber. It makes the libido awesome.

But the key to my deep sleep on tren is the HGH. I've been pinning a vial every night right before bed and I sleep like a baby! In fact, I don't want to wake up in the morning for work. I do wake up covered in sweat though but that's just the tren doing its job. This is on 100mg ED of Tren Ace by the way.
 
I did OIF and OEF one time each. I got married as a coolie and was making 3500 monthly it was great. If I get this contract it'll be for 12 months based out of camp leatherneck.

When I first started the tren it was about a week before I had any sides and the first to hit was the night sweats, I would wake up in a pool of sweat, then the insomnia kicked in I couldn't sleep for nothing........then lol the tren rage hit me but only for a day. I woke up and went about my normal routine then it just hit me, every little thing made me mad, I wanted to kill something and I couldn't figure out why, "it's the tren" never crossed my mind. The next day i was fine. Every now and then i'll try to take a full deep breath and I can't. It's hard to describe but you know when you take a deep breath and you get that I can breath feeling? I couldn't get that even at my lungs capacity. That happens off and on for me. As for anxiety, no I didn't get that.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
ConanX said:
I always had trensomnia. This cycle I am running caber. It makes the libido awesome.

But the key to my deep sleep on tren is the HGH. I've been pinning a vial every night right before bed and I sleep like a baby! In fact, I don't want to wake up in the morning for work. I do wake up covered in sweat though but that's just the tren doing its job. This is on 100mg ED of Tren Ace by the way.
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That's what I run except its EOD for me. My uniform is soaked by then end of my shift but the upside is the massive loss in BFC that come with it.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
What kind of contracting? Id like to swing a Civ contracting gig like zero or similar...I miss having a .50 cal in my hands and I get so damn bored out here. I was out of camp leatherneck both deployments to helmund province...shithole... yeah I should have gotten married, my checks weren't half yours but I was attached to battalion recon as their mg so the hazard pay was nonstop when deployed..

I got some anxiety or some crazy shit where I was dreaming for like a week straight someone was trying to kill me and id wake up and lay there listening for hours for no reason. I would sweat like crazy too but then again I'm in nomex in the texas heat so my bf pct stays really low anyways. If it weren't for the sides I would say tren is absolutely the best aas. I have been thinking hard about running it with my next cycle but idk how it would react with beastdrol

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It's a sub contract through aerotek. I'll be doing PSD and armory type shit. It's not 100% yet but this is the furthest I've gotten with any group so it's looking good. I first tried triple canopy but they wanted force recon and seal types. The recruiter was a douche nozzle any way.

I only run tren ace and test prop for a few reasons. My source is out of the uk and it gets expensive after western union and shipping and all that shit so I just make my own now. It's cheaper and it yields a lot more. The test and tren mixed with forma and zinc, my sex drive is insane and my wife runs from me now lol I did dream a lot but they were all about sex and that's about it lol


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
I've got test prop kickstart, test e, and beast all ready to go with all the proper ancilleries and pct lined up, but I've been thinking about tren ace for maybe weeks 1-6 with caber...talk about being a pumped fkr. Haven't done enough research on tren ace with beast though, plus its a pain in the ass to pin damn near EOD so I'm still undecided. I'll probably run a little log though since its my first go with beast...
Good luck with the job bro, I tried for triple canopy myself but they don't take medical discharges and I have a titanium foot thanks to my last deployment..so if I contracted it would be like truck driving or some shit and they don't give you a weapon so I said fk it...

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When did you EAS?

A guy I know told me about tren ace and he gave me good info on it. I've done extensive research on it myself for my own well being and knowledge. I ran it with test at first and now am running alone, my reasoning behind this is I'd rather come off one at a time instead of both together. I use to pin with 22G because of how thick the test was but that got old quick! I switched to 25G retractables and it works do much better now EOD I fell in love with tren from the first pin. After My first week I found it hard to keep food around the house but the feeling and results I get from it are well worth the sides even the sweating and insomnia.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
training700 said:
^^^ yeah will be a lot smoother run
Lets get this straight... your running tren and don't even know how run it properly. any research and know can jack with your sleep bad. as well as other prolactin sides
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not eveyone needs caber with tren or deca, myself being one of them
 
Jakegusman said:
I've have searched the net far and wide to get a difinative answer on how long the life of the acetate ester is everyone says 1-3 days well there's a massive difference in one or three . Besides body reaction from hormone over the years I have noticed with myself anyway that keeping the hormone levels stable is best way to avoid sides . The sudden loss of the compound and sudden rise is what will cause a lot of shit especially with sumthen as potent as tren . Shooting everyday same time has made sides with tren minimal for me a
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+1 same here....50mg ed, sleep fine a little anxiety and some night sweats but nothing intolerable
 
August of last year.
Steve I know you're having damn good results from your thread...would you reccomend running tren ace or e with test e, prop, and beast? I know you have ran both before and this Devil Dog here has me missing the power lol

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the first couple of times run ace and cap it 6 weeks.. see how you react, see how you recover. yeah the strength gains go nuts around week 4 and it sucks having to stop at 6 weeks.. but nothing wrong with leaving yourself room for later

then if all goes well then try E for a bit longer.
 
stevesmi said:
the first couple of times run ace and cap it 6 weeks.. see how you react, see how you recover. yeah the strength gains go nuts around week 4 and it sucks having to stop at 6 weeks.. but nothing wrong with leaving yourself room for later

then if all goes well then try E for a bit longer.
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After week 6 is when the magic starts :supercool

Lol but for a noob, that is very solid advice! 6 weeks of Ace. If you start to feel uncomfortable, just lower the dose a bit and see how you do. Also I recommend Caber. It is working fantastic for me.
 
Update on sides.....Started getting red bumps (i guess you can call it acne, never had it before so I don't know) across shoulders and top back.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Steve,
This has been a real productive thread, lots of good info and advice in here. Tell you what, had I not seen this thread, I would of not known a thing or two and thats being honest to everyone cause I dont know everything. Thats why EF is such a great place to get some knowledge and insight. I think I am kinda leaning to Tren E over Ace, I just cannot think I can oin EOD, I like the fact that on Enanthate you can pin twice a week. I already got the Caber coming along with some other PCT, I learned how its REALLY important to get all the ON cycle and PCT in line before thinking you can just jump into things. The Caber will really help me now on my worst sides I get from Tren in anxiety, so I can sleep better.
So BIG Thumbs up Steve!:supercool
 
theemperor said:
Steve,
This has been a real productive thread, lots of good info and advice in here. Tell you what, had I not seen this thread, I would of not known a thing or two and thats being honest to everyone cause I dont know everything. Thats why EF is such a great place to get some knowledge and insight. I think I am kinda leaning to Tren E over Ace, I just cannot think I can oin EOD, I like the fact that on Enanthate you can pin twice a week. I already got the Caber coming along with some other PCT, I learned how its REALLY important to get all the ON cycle and PCT in line before thinking you can just jump into things. The Caber will really help me now on my worst sides I get from Tren in anxiety, so I can sleep better.
So BIG Thumbs up Steve!:supercool
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yeah bro the more we all discuss this stuff and share experiences the better for everyone. without EF we would be so screwed lol.
 
For acne, I find the best remedy is the tanning booth. I've been too lazy and feel too gay to get a tan so I have some acne on my back, shoulders, and arms. But I know as soon as my skin gets the UV light it dries right out and I look so much better.
 
stevesmi said:
yeah bro the more we all discuss this stuff and share experiences the better for everyone. without EF we would be so screwed lol.
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Hell yea broman, I've learned a lot through my own and others experiences. This thread took off way more than I had thought it would, the info is pretty good and a good read. we're all into AAS, we're all in this together.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Guess this goes out to Steve...I just finished up a 5 week cycle of tren E and am continuing on with Test E for 5 more weeks. I was running the test E for the first 5 weeks as well.
My question is can you continue to run caber into PCT? I get pretty bad anxiety on Tren and even though I stopped it 2 weeks ago I don't want to have those sides come back. Also the tren E sticks around in the body longer...you have any idea how long it takes to normalize after 5 weeks of tren E?
 
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