Tren And Propionate 6 Weeks?

[natecr]

Ive got some just about to be here. But my question is.. should i continue to run test 4 weeks after im done with the tren/prop???

I dont want water retention.. But my friend is telling me to run sust for 4 weeks after.. I know ill get some retention then.. But my whole purpose for this cycle is to lean out and gain some lean muscle


heres what my cycle is
6 weeks of Trenbolone acetate and Propionate

AM i good to go with just that or should i extend it with another 4 weeks of super test?

also would nolva be good for pct?? Could i get by with just taking nolva? Or maybe chlomid by itself? Or should i do both??

 

[bw1]

Six weeks of Tren A and Prop is a good cycle. I have done the 6 wk on 6 wk off before, worked good. I wouldn't add the long ester. HCG either during or for pct.

 

[natecr]

Well right now i dont want to fork over the extra $$$

so could i take just nolva by itself? or just chlomid by itself?

Or both?

 

[goku_kakarot77]

its a good cycle bro, but you should run the test longer than tren,


peace

 

[natecr]

Bump

 

[IronmanLV]

Is it for financial reasons that you are going with only a 6 wk run or do you not like longer cycles? I find a 12 wk run of prop & tren to be more effective. I find that the 6 wk mark is when I really start to see my best gains all the way thru wk 12. I also do both for the same length of time 12 wks.

Maybe I'm just lucky but neither of those AAS' should aromatise unless you're doing shit loads of prop or are very sensitive to gyno. The only PCT I do is HCG and Nolva for 2 wks after and I'm good.

 

[enacer420nj]

Well right now i dont want to fork over the extra $$$

so could i take just nolva by itself? or just chlomid by itself?

Or both?

Fork it over...your balls will thank you....use all the clomid/nolva u want, if your balls are small its not going to be nearly as effective

 

[natecr]

I already felt kidney problems before when i was at the end of a 6 week enanthate and equipoise cycle so i dont want to f*** with tren that long!

What does hcg usually run.. I havent taken it before.. How much will i need?

 

[natecr]

and where the hell do you stick yourself shooting eod.. im sure your ass quads and delts are tired of it after a while but...

12 weeks of that shit my god!~

my only problem with hcg also is that its hard to find around here i dont know if i can get my hands on any.

 

[builtbychevy]

i feel 8-10 weeks is better if your going to spend the time and money... more time to gain some more weight right.

 

[natecr]

i guess ill just run some sust for 4 more weeks after.. My buddies that actually compete keep telling me that 6 weeks is plenty?????

First time using tren and prop.. Im not gunning for competitive status like they do..

I am already pretty cut.. This will be just a lean mass fat burning cycle..

Just good enough for the bitches to sweat over it during the summer

 

[boletryne]

use tren for 6weeks and prop for 8weeks and follow up with hcg and clomid.. for 4weeks

 

[natecr]

i gotta see if i can get some hcg i really want it but i dont know if i can get my hands on any right now.. i just want to make sure captain winky works.. I already use it enough as is

 

[23CALIBRO]

would u run the hcg right after cycle or during the entire cyc.le

 

[DaveTSI]

this would be a great short cycle

1-6 tren 50mg ed
1-8 prop 75mg ed
2-10 hcg 500iu e4-5d
8-10 nolva

thats how i would run it

 

[ALIN]

Ive got some just about to be here. But my question is.. should i continue to run test 4 weeks after im done with the tren/prop???

I dont want water retention.. But my friend is telling me to run sust for 4 weeks after.. I know ill get some retention then.. But my whole purpose for this cycle is to lean out and gain some lean muscle


heres what my cycle is
6 weeks of Trenbolone acetate and Propionate

AM i good to go with just that or should i extend it with another 4 weeks of super test?

also would nolva be good for pct?? Could i get by with just taking nolva? Or maybe chlomid by itself? Or should i do both??

you dont HAVE to run test after your TEST PROP/TREN cycle

 

[halfcenturian]

I'm surprised you didn't run some dostinex for prolactin. Your tits must be nice and dry. That's good!

All's well that ends well.

 

[halfcenturian]

I already felt kidney problems before when i was at the end of a 6 week enanthate and equipoise cycle so i dont want to f*** with tren that long!

What does hcg usually run.. I havent taken it before.. How much will i need?

Get some cranberry extract. 3 times a day and tons of water to flush out kidneys. Works great.

 

[natecr]

ok so im going to run this

Tren - 1-6
Prop - 1-8
PCT - HCG if i can get my hands on it. IF not ill just do chlomid and/or nolvadex

Do i need to run prolactin or Dostinex?

 

[halfcenturian]

Dostinex is a prolactin inhibitor. Take .5mg on Tuesday and Friday.
I run HCG 500 iu's twice a week.
Cranberry extract will really help kidneys, but not required.

 

[natecr]

alright.. so last question.
If i cant get my hands on any HCG
Can i take nolva or chlomid by itself?
Or do i need to take both.
I want to know if ill be alright as far as keeping gains and or gyno dick problems etc
How much is some dostinex.

 

[halfcenturian]

alright.. so last question.
If i cant get my hands on any HCG
Can i take nolva or chlomid by itself?
Or do i need to take both.
I want to know if ill be alright as far as keeping gains and or gyno dick problems etc
How much is some dostinex.

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[perryscoon]

6 weeks is okay, but 8 weeks would be better. No you don't need to run the test for 4 more weeks. Since tren is a nandrolone-like steroid, its good to run test at least one more week after you're out of tren.

What dosages do you plan on running?

Clomid and nolva are fine for pct.

 

[natecr]

6 weeks is okay, but 8 weeks would be better. No you don't need to run the test for 4 more weeks. Since tren is a nandrolone-like steroid, its good to run test at least one more week after you're out of tren.

What dosages do you plan on running?

Clomid and nolva are fine for pct.

75 mg tren
100 mg prop

and since your saying to take dostinex. should i just take nolvadex with it and ill be good to go?

 

[perryscoon]

75 mg tren
100 mg prop

and since your saying to take dostinex. should i just take nolvadex with it and ill be good to go?

Thats a terrific dose. I just did the same.

No, do not take nolvadex with tren. It can make progesterone gyno WORSE. If you think you are prone to gyno, you can take a low dose of letrozole with tren at .5mg ED.

 

[IronmanLV]

The dosages and duration of the cycle you're looking at shouldn't really cause you any sides unless you're very prone to gyno. Is this your first cycle? If you have prior experiences with aromatising AAS' you should have a pretty good idea whether you're prone to gyno. But remember Prop is in and out of the body so quickly it is very rare that it will give you gyno unless you are mega dosing but if you follow this protocol you're not even close.

As a general rule iand again just a generality not an absolute, but I find that guys who have areolas larger than about a US quarter and don't have small tight nipples may have problems with gyno. If you have small ones chances are you aren't prone to gyno. But it's always better to be safe than sorry so have an AI around just in case. It's much cheaper, easier and less painful to prevent gyno than to treat it.

The main purpose of HCG is if you develop raisin nuts (shrinkage Jerry! One of my favorite lines from Seinfield) it'll get them back to "normal" size quicker and also help restore your natural test levels back to "normal" post cycle quicker but will spike estrogen because it works so good so it must be taken with an AI. If you can't find HCG then clomid should do fine for you it just might take a little longer to recover is all.

I wish you the best success with your cycle and keep us posted on your progress.

 

[jacshelb]

I second the no nolva with tren! The only time I had gyno problems that's what I was running. I wouldn't make it too complicated. I recover fine after a 6 weeker at around those doses without any real pct. I taper off a little (old school right?) and never have any complaints. But, of course, do what you feel is best. Anyway, I think you'll do fine, just keep the nolva away from the tren.


Jacob

 

[natecr]

thanks guys.. ill keep everyone posted on my results.. Ill take my pics now and half way and at the end of my cycle to show everyone how ive benefited

 

[perryscoon]

thanks guys.. ill keep everyone posted on my results.. Ill take my pics now and half way and at the end of my cycle to show everyone how ive benefited

Well good luck. tren is the BEST steroid there is, hands down. Enjoy.

 

[natecr]

ya i cant wait.. def gonna get that chlomid before i start too.
what am i benefitting out of pushing prop another 2 weeks after 6 of tren and prop anyway? I was just told to push it a few more weeks

 

[perryscoon]

ya i cant wait.. def gonna get that chlomid before i start too.
what am i benefitting out of pushing prop another 2 weeks after 6 of tren and prop anyway? I was just told to push it a few more weeks

Well 2 weeks is fine for running the test after the tren is gone. You can run it longer if you like. The purpose of this is to keep your libido up. Tren is a nandrolone-like steroid, so it can shut you down, just like deca or npp. Its just a safety precaution to keep your libido up before you start your PCT and attempt to gain your natty levels back.

 

[natecr]

Well 2 weeks is fine for running the test after the tren is gone. You can run it longer if you like. The purpose of this is to keep your libido up. Tren is a nandrolone-like steroid, so it can shut you down, just like deca or npp. Its just a safety precaution to keep your libido up before you start your PCT and attempt to gain your natty levels back.

cool well ill for sure keep it going then.

also what do you do think is best to keep the gains besides the continuance of hard training and the way i eat?

 

[natecr]

bump

 

[perryscoon]

cool well ill for sure keep it going then.

also what do you do think is best to keep the gains besides the continuance of hard training and the way i eat?

Thats the beauty of tren. All of the gains are real. What you see is what you get. There is no bloated "illusion" of bigger muscles that die off during PCT.

Of course you can ruin tren gains by eating like shit and getting fat after your cycle. The muscle will still be there, it will just be hidden.

There is no reason you shouldn't keep 98% of your gains from Tren unless you go extremely calorie deficient to the point you lose muscle afterwards.

 

[natecr]

lol no worries i work out on a daily basis and i took 6 months off.. I got back in the gym a while ago and my muscle memory was great. I look like i never quit and my diets better than my last experience with gear. IM ready for this cycle to kick my ever loving ass!

FYI the chlomid on ag guys.. Is it the liquiclom and is it legit?

Also i have been planning for EOD with tren and prop.
Some people say they had less sides and better results shooting ED? I dont mind it. I just want the best overall opinion.

 

[perryscoon]

lol no worries i work out on a daily basis and i took 6 months off.. I got back in the gym a while ago and my muscle memory was great. I look like i never quit and my diets better than my last experience with gear. IM ready for this cycle to kick my ever loving ass!

FYI the chlomid on ag guys.. Is it the liquiclom and is it legit?

Also i have been planning for EOD with tren and prop.
Some people say they had less sides and better results shooting ED? I dont mind it. I just want the best overall opinion.

Ag-guys' stuff is legit.

I pin ED. I just like to. Gives me something to do. As long as you use a 23g needle and switch sites regularly you can keep scar tissue to a minimum. As far as sides go, I've never tried EoD but you WILL experience some intense sides regardless. They just might be a little less pinning ED. IMHO the gains, energy increase, and strength increase outweigh the sides.

 

[natecr]

sweet bro i thank you for all the input on this cycle.. I am pretty informed as for everything else.. But i just wanted to be 100% sure what i was digging into with tren.
Ive posted alot just to be completely sure i do it right! for the most part i had everything down to a T but you helped me out with alot of random q's i had.. thanks man

pinning everyday. Are you just doing a cc or how much? does it differ to make it less doing it ed or eod????

 

[natecr]

So does the amount differ shooting ED?

 

[natecr]

bump

 

[natecr]

come on guys i need this last bit of info..