tren and ectomorphs don't mix for bulking....

[Outtlaw]

I was only making an observation for all the other ectos who may be thinking about going with tren for a mass building cycle....Yes I'm dropping tren and making the adjustments to my cycle and diet as we speak.

Ok, that makes sense. That's all I was suggesting. It sounded like you were just bitching about how the cycle wasnt giving you the results you wanted, all the while not willing to make any changes to it.

 

[the_only_sepe]

sounds like a high protein no fat diet to me, need fat to grow

 

[hammercurls]

He Said 120 Grams Of Fat In His First Few Posts

 

[the_only_sepe]

He Said 120 Grams Of Fat In His First Few Posts

protein burns 1 1/3 it weight in fat if you dont provide enough fat or too much protein your just going to get leaner

 

[hammertime30]

sounds like a high protein no fat diet to me, need fat to grow

my diet is about 400g carbs 350g protein 120g fat

 

[khemix]

LOL all i read was the first post and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about!! I'm an ectomorph as well and just got done running tren in my cycle. Cycle looks like this:
Test Enth, 750mg/wk, 1-12wks
Tren Ace, 100mg/eod, 1-6wks

I'm in week 8 and shredded like nobodys business. 5% bf while bulking, eating 5k cals, lots of junk food and fast food, and STILL ripped! I've put on quite a bit of weight tho and I've got veins extending from bigger veins, and veins coming off those! Strength is thruy the roof and so is sex drive. I'll run tren with every cycle I believe. I enjoy being ripped up, even when bulking!

Chris

 

[hammertime30]

LOL all i read was the first post and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about!! I'm an ectomorph as well and just got done running tren in my cycle. Cycle looks like this:
Test Enth, 750mg/wk, 1-12wks
Tren Ace, 100mg/eod, 1-6wks

I'm in week 8 and shredded like nobodys business. 5% bf while bulking, eating 5k cals, lots of junk food and fast food, and STILL ripped! I've put on quite a bit of weight tho and I've got veins extending from bigger veins, and veins coming off those! Strength is thruy the roof and so is sex drive. I'll run tren with every cycle I believe. I enjoy being ripped up, even when bulking!

Chris

That's a good thing if that's what you are looking for.....I just didn't expect to drop so much bf at my current calorie count......How much total weight did you put on for the cycle? Plus you are running higher test and lower tren then I am which is why I'm thinking that I'm going to switch from 500mg tren/300mg test...to 750mg test and maybe 150-200mg tren....but, then again I may just drop the tren for the remainder of the cycle........I have one more day to decide.....my next dosage is due Mon.....and I also need to work my calorie count up from 4000 to 5000 over the next 2 weeks.............

 

[khemix]

That's a good thing if that's what you are looking for.....I just didn't expect to drop so much bf at my current calorie count......How much total weight did you put on for the cycle? Plus you are running higher test and lower tren then I am which is why I'm thinking that I'm going to switch from 500mg tren/300mg test...to 750mg test and maybe 150-200mg tren....but, then again I may just drop the tren for the remainder of the cycle........I have one more day to decide.....my next dosage is due Mon.....and I also need to work my calorie count up from 4000 to 5000 over the next 2 weeks.............

Um this is only my second run with tren, but on my first one (75mg/eod) I gained probably 15lbs and dropped a few % of bodyfat. The test should definantly always be higher than most any other compound, especially if you're looking to bulk. I'd suggest you run 750mg of test and aprx 300mg/tren a week. It helps keep the water off from the test and keeps your pumps insane and keeps the strength going up strongly. You're very welcome to PM me or IM me on AIM at 'ii vzxxxzv ii' and I'll chat about it with you.

Chris

 

[Mr_MAX]

no matter what though... if you are losing weight you are not eating enough.. you want to keep the fat or gain more weight you need more calories... it might suck but that is how it is... ( after the cycle i am sure you can add back the fat anyway )
but if you are taking in 4000 guess what you need 4500 or 5000 it is just the way it is.... ( hope you like to eat if you dont ... sure is a waste.. )

 

[hammertime30]

no matter what though... if you are losing weight you are not eating enough.. you want to keep the fat or gain more weight you need more calories... it might suck but that is how it is... ( after the cycle i am sure you can add back the fat anyway )
but if you are taking in 4000 guess what you need 4500 or 5000 it is just the way it is.... ( hope you like to eat if you dont ... sure is a waste.. )

I eat to live not live to eat, however I do what ever it takes to reach a goal once I set it.......Remember though.....I didn't lose weight I lost fat...according to the scale, I went from 176 to 181....and dropped 3mm in fat according to the calipers......that's a net of 10lbs gained....I will drop the dosage of tren from 500mg to about 150-200mg per week (just enough to keep off the water retention) and increase test from 300mg to about 750mg.....cals will be up to 4500 by the end of next week and I'll work up to 5000 cals by the end of the 2nd week..........I will change my training from 1 body part every 7 days to 1 body part every 5 days, however i will drop a set per excercise per training day......that will give me a good 10 weeks on test to pack on some more mass.............