Tren and Drug tests.....HELP

[pelon]

I've searched, but cannot find any worthwhile threads.

Long story short.....I'll be tested at work at the end of the week for steroids. I only used tren in the last year and stopped 7 days ago.

They said they'll use a specialized piss test for steriods.....

Anyone have first hand experience with testing? Detection times, what roids they test for, how to beat the test, etc........

Thanks pelon

 

[Axe]

Don't go into a panic but I seem to remember it having a 2 week detection time. There are a couple of threads by bigballa72 on beating drug tests with ajax. Do a search and check 'em out

Good Luck

 

[Syphonfilter]

Well, I hate to say that you are probably fucked. I am the victim of a steroid test which is a long story in itself and I tested positive for three roids, two of which I haven't ever taken. Since Tren is a derivative (sp?) of the nandrolone metabolite and it's detection time is approximately 4-5 weeks you may be screwed. If they are doing a bonafide steroid test, they will test for all of the known roids and their metabolites. On my test I counted 20 roid profiles that were tested for from Boldenone, to Oral Turinabol to Halo, Deca, etc.... There is no specialized test per se that you pee for, other than they may even test your test to epitest ratios which would be indicative of roid use. Good luck, hope you come out okay. There's really no way to beat the test, not with technology the way it is, and even if you took Probenecid, which did block roids from the urine, they test for masking agents as well these days. If your company or department or whatever is serious about testing for roids, then they are gonna spend the money and there really isn't anything you can do but pray alot.

 

[pelon]

Thanks for the quick responses.


Yeah im in the law enforcement field....someone internally made an allegation of steriod use.

They said they would use a "specialized test" and that they tested for "masking agents".

any other info on dectections times, etc.?

 

[Syphonfilter]

Sorry to hear it bro. I am an ex cop due to a steroid test and probably ain't ever gonna be one again. If I were you, I would refuse the test. Based on an allegation by someone is not probable cause nor reasonable suspicion enough to warrant a roid test IMO and of attorneys I've spoken to. Then again, it all depends on your departmental policy. From most of the research I've read, Tren is detectable for up to 4 to 5 weeks and maybe longer depending on how high your bodyfat is. If I could go back in time and when they asked me for a piss test I'd have told them to go fuck themselves, but I didn't think I had anything to hide. Masking agents will be tested for, that shit about bleach and other items will not work on roids and their metabolites, and since you did Tren I'd bet your test to epitest ratios will be high, and I do believe they'd test for it, they did for me. By the way, this site says tren is detectable up to five months, but most other sites say 4 to 5 weeks, either way, I'd say keep your head up and good luck, hope it turns out better than my story.

This is taken from www.steroiddetectiontimes.com:

steroid Detection Times
18 months
nandrolone decanoate

12 months
nandrolone phenylpropionate

5 months
boldenone undecyclate
metehenolone enanthate
trenbolone
trenbolone acetate
injectable methandienone

3 months
testosterone-mix (Sustanon Omnadren)
testosterone enanthate
testosterone cypionate

2 months oxymetholone
fluoxymesterone
injectabel stanozolol
formebolone
drostanolone propionate

5 weeks
methandienone
mesterolone
ethylestrenole
noretadrolone
3 weeks
oxandrolone
oral stanozolol

2 weeks
testosterone propionate

1 weeks
testosterone undecanoate

4 days clenbuterol

 

[IronFist]

I think tren is right around 6 months....

 

[Syphonfilter]

Hey Pelon

What's going on with this now? Keep me updated on the situation and if you need to talk, I'll lend an ear.

Later

Syphon

 

[nice6pac]

well for your inof they don't test for tren ncaa just started as no one knwos about tren since finajct but i hav eno defintieive clue but ncaa jsut started testing for trenand youc an always protest reuslts trus tme jsut get a real good lawyer

 

[2Thick]

Once again, I will recommend that you hide some salt under your sac and then sprinkle it into your urine sample to invalidate the test and to give you more time to flush the fina out of your system.

 

[manny78]

What kindda job would ask for a drug test ? I've never seen that here except for law enforcement.

 

[2Thick]

What kindda job would ask for a drug test ? I've never seen that here except for law enforcement.

I know that you speak three languages (at least) so I guess i will forgive you for not reading his post where he states that he is in LE and the reason for the test is an allegation of steroid use.

 

[Latamier]

Hey bro, I havent seen him on here lately, but you may want to try and email Nautica. He has given other people here advice on how to beat a test. Good luck!

 

[manny78]

I know that you speak three languages (at least) so I guess i will forgive you for not reading his post where he states that he is in LE and the reason for the test is an allegation of steroid use.

My bad, I missed his second post. Allegation ? were I work, 1/2 of the guys under 40 are juiced up or did sauce somewhere in their existence. Man you must be working with fat-dontus-pussies to have to deal with such BS....

 

[baza]

Once again, I will recommend that you hide some salt under your sac and then sprinkle it into your urine sample to invalidate the test and to give you more time to flush the fina out of your system.

I read about that, as well as ajax. So, when you use this method, they will test you again? I think some of the places in Canada have the urine sample sent away, so doing this would probably give you 1-2 weeks of time until the next test. You probably know more about testing in Canada then I do, 2thick.

 

[monkeyballs]

If the test is legit, there is no way to beat it. Plain and simple.

Most testing agencies mark a sample that has been invalidated by the introduction of a foreign substance (bleech, ajax, whiskey, etc...) as grounds for a positive test.

Whatever organization that is testing you is legally obligated to give you the grounds for the testing protocol prior to the test. This could have been years ago, but somewhere, some document that you put your signature on mentions the use of anabolics and the punishment for a positive test. I suggest you try and find this document, and re-read it carefully.

That is to say that the test is even looking for AS, which I still doubt. Most employment tests that decided to include a test for anabolics simply add a T/E ratio test rather than a test for a full spectrum of metabolites. It's just too expensive to conduct a complete test.

If this is the case, get your hands on some of your girlfriends birth controll pills. Provided that they are Epi based, they should tip the ratio if you are in fact over the cuttoff point.

For harder tests, this is not so simple, as a Epi concentration in the urine above a certain threshold is also grounds for a postive test.

My guess is that the test your up against is nothing like the ones I deal with, and when all is said and done, you'll probably be fine.

Your lucky I just had some coffee.

 

[Syphonfilter]

Well here we go again, but I hate to say this, chances are (and I am a pessimist) he will not be fine. He is in law enforcement, and if they are going to test him for steroids they will not only test the test/epitest ratio but will also send the sample for gas chromotagraphy/mass spectrometry. It's a city, state, federal, or county agency, they don't care about the $, if they plan to do the test, they do it and they do it completely. A city with a multi million dollar budget isn't gonna care about spending a few hundred dollars to a thousand dollars to find out if a member of law enforcement is violating departmental substance abuse policy. How would I know anything right? Well I have first hand knowledge in that aspect, and at the time I thought they too would just look at test/epitest, but it just doesn't work that way.

Tren is a derivative of nandrolone and will show up as such on a test.

Pelon, if you are truly worried, refuse the test, and if you are at high risk of losing your job, claim you are addicted to juice, under the ADA your department will be required to provide treatment for your "addiction." If you take the test and are found to be positive, it's too late for ADA to cover you. If I could go back in time I'd have done this and I'd still be in law enforcement.

This of course applies if you are a member of a law enforcement agency in the US. If you're in Canada, I have no idea what their practices are.

Either way Pelon, good luck.

 

[monkeyballs]

I suppose ronnie coleman doesn't count huh?

 

[slobberknocker]

I suppose ronnie coleman doesn't count huh?

He's just on creatine.

 

[Syphonfilter]

Nope, Ronnie don't count, especially since last I heard he was just in the reserves for Arlington PD, which allows him to keep his TCLEOSE license active. Went to the academy with a guy from Arlington who knew quite a few Arlington boyz in blue and I asked him about Ronnie. He pretty much told me that good ol' Arlington PD was well aware of Ronnie's "use" but that he was such a good PR stunt for the department, they looked the other way. Besides, most department's in Texas don't seem to test for roids no matter what, but just my luck, I worked for the only one in Texas who decided to do it....

So come on Pelon, what's up, you a US cop or what? I really wanna know how this pans out.

Syphon

 

[manny78]

This of course applies if you are a member of a law enforcement agency in the US. If you're in Canada, I have no idea what their practices are.

Never ever heard of any testings. Near RCMP academy in Regina, guys used to go on week-ends to the "Shooting Range" to get a "promo" shot lol Others were hiding dbols tabs in their Tylenol bottle. Did the instructors knew about that. Yes. Did they care ? NO !!!

 

[Qrios]

Can't some of the pro-hormones show up as nandrolone as someone said tren would??

 

[Syphonfilter]

As a matter of fact the 19Nor Prohormones can and will show up as Nortestosterone. Most police departments when faced with an officer who uses AAS, and it is brought to light will take corrective action, i.e., suspension or termination for violating a substance abuse policy, without a second thought. Most department's require reasonable suspicion or probable cause to just give a person a drug specific test.

I just looked at Pelon's location and he's in Cali, if so, I'd advise him to get a hold of a Union Rep (if he's got one) and to fight with all he has to not take this test based on someone's "accusation" with no tangible proof. Can you imagine if that is all it took to get someone in trouble, a mere accusation?

Funny how you see things after you've been thru them yourself.