Transdermal WINNY, OSTA cycle HELP!!! Opinions needed!!!

[Getbig11]

Hey guys ive been looking into the new line of transdermals and the winny caught my eye. Ive tried winny once before but used injection hurt like a bitch lol. I loved the gains i got but hated the injection pain. I could tough it out if i had to but im going to try the transdermal winny instead. I plan on running it 8 weeks. Im a little concerned about my joints tho. I will be keeping my reps somewhat high so it doesnt mess my joints up. Also i hear osta is good onthe joints so i will add that in the cycle as well. I need some advice on forma use. Im gyno prone and i want to run the forma the whole cycle but dont want estro rebound. Would forma be good to use weeks 1-8? If so do you guys think estro rebound will be a problem? Im hoping to get as much advice from you pro's as i can!!! Thanks guys heres the lay out.

Stats:
Age-24
Height- 5'10
Weight- 185-190
Bf- 10%? Not sure but right around that.

Cycle:
Transdermal winstrol- 50 mg split dose? daily for 8 weeks
Osta sarm-25 mg daily a.m for 8 weeks

Cycle support:
N2guard- 8 weeks
N2 shampoo- whole cycle into pct
Hcgenerate- week 1-8
Forma stanzol- week 1-8?

Post cycle:
Clomid 25 mg for 4 weeks
Post cycle/unleashed
Bridge
Test infusion?? Maybe

Other on cycle supps:
Whey protein
BCAAS
Multi vitamin

Goals:
My goals are to tighten and harden up my muscles while adding some strength and reps onto my lifts. My last cycle of winny my strength went up a lot so hopefully i react the same. Its very easy for me to cut so thats not an issue and i know i will be shredded after this cycle.

 

[Cahardcore]

winny with no test? I guess you don't want to have a boner...you need to run a test base with it. Winny will shut off your natural testoseterone production, if you don't replace it with an outside source of test, you may not function well. You should consider at minimum a trt/hrt does of 250ish mg/wk test. If you gonna go with the transdermals, why not grab some test and run it as well

 

[ballslee]

^ you don't have to run test...but I would run proviron and/or Hcg with it to maintain testicular function shouldn't kill libido by itself tho.

but the transdermal test would be a good idea....but i think OP's idea is that if he doesn't use test he wont get gyno. So maybe a good idea to keep it out.

my thoughts for on cycle would be to keep Aromasin on cycle for estrogen sides (probably not even use it or forma) unless you start to feel extra estrogen or anything.
or if you want to get extra dry certain days, etc you could use it.....but itll be better for your joints to not use it. 12.5 EOD or E3D if sides showed up.
Because winny doesn't aromatize, so it shouldn't be an issue. The forma in post cycle i would do 5 pumps AM and 5 PM.

 

[Getbig11]

Thanks for the advice guys.. Im trying to keep test out of the cycle because of the gyno and supression it causes. I figured hcgenerate would take care of the libido issues. My body reacts very well to a light cycle i dont need much to see big gains. Do you think i should use the hcgenerate the whole cycle and the hcg?

 

[Getbig11]

Forgot to add in that i will be using
Forged joint for another support supplement.

 

[Getbig11]

If i add in the test at 250 mg a week and run the aromasin at 12.5 EOD will it keep the gyno away?

 

[ballslee]

you can use hcgenerate or hcg, not both tho. like if you stop one, then use the other. most say blast hcg a couple of weeks before pct.
test @ 250 should be pretty good. probably wont even need aromasin because of the winny, but you could do 12.5 EOD to be on the safe side. you can adjust that, depending on if you have estrogen sides. some people need to tweak the dosage depending on the cycle and their bodies. i am doing 25mg ED.....that is where it is perfect for me. so just adjust it to figure out the best dosage if 12.5 EOD isn't doing the trick.

 

[dylangemelli]

save forma for pct... run aromasin 12.5 mg eod on cycle... i would look into tb-500 as well... it works wonders bro... i would save osta for a bridge after the cycle...

pct

Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM

optional

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com