trans dermal application of Yohimbine HCL and AAS

[jimbolon]

Hi, I'm new to this site but been 'bodybuilding' for about 2 years. Yesterday I read an old article on this forum about trans dermal application of steroids and Yohimbine HCL, using either DMSO or Phlojel. Is this a successful way to spot reduce bodyfat, or is it just a myth?? Has anyone tried this technique with good results - either to build muscle, lose fat or both??
What is the technique, quantities, time periods, daily applications, time of day, etc etc. of this method, assuming my goal is to lose bodyfat, and maintain (or grow) new muscle??

 

[macrophage69alpha]

DMSO is a poor carrier for yohimbine, but a decent (if somewhat caustic) one for AAS.

if you want topical/trandermal yohimbine

www.yohimburn.com

a link on this site about yohimburn (reccomend the ES version)
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313621

here is a topical formulation that does deliver hormones (though not AAS in this case)

https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/product_info.php?id=152

so yes both are possible.

there is loss, so its not as cost effective as making your own injectables (which would of course be esterified AAS typically).

transdermals can be used for AAS but formulation is key. As well as using non esterified AAS.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Using AAS in a transdermal manner is very wasteful...you probably get 10-30% of the amount you would get from injection. If you're considering transdermal application, go with Phlo-Gel...it's a pharmaceutical grade transdermal carrier. It's what I use, and what I've used to make transdermals for all of my clients.

 

[jimbolon]

I read that a really good combination to use as a transdermal applicant for cutting fat is fina, yohimbine hcl and winstrol, all crushed up and sprinkled onto the phlo-jel, and then wrapped up using surround wrap. Is this likely to yield a good result and what sort of doses do you use and how often etc.?
Im roughly 14% BF but would like to be more like 8%. Although I want an all-round lower %, my main desire is to lose it from my abs and lower back / hips. Is this an appropriate technique for my goal? I do not wish to use injectibles as I normally pass out when a needle comes near me LOL

If this method is so wasteful, why do you use it Anthony? And I have heard that this method can actually be upto 80% effective (compared to injectibles) for certain compounds including Yohimbine....?

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I read that a really good combination to use as a transdermal applicant for cutting fat is fina, yohimbine hcl and winstrol, all crushed up and sprinkled onto the phlo-jel, and then wrapped up using surround wrap. Is this likely to yield a good result and what sort of doses do you use and how often etc.?
Im roughly 14% BF but would like to be more like 8%. Although I want an all-round lower %, my main desire is to lose it from my abs and lower back / hips. Is this an appropriate technique for my goal? I do not wish to use injectibles as I normally pass out when a needle comes near me LOL

If this method is so wasteful, why do you use it Anthony? And I have heard that this method can actually be upto 80% effective (compared to injectibles) for certain compounds including Yohimbine....?

Topical steroids is a pretty horrible idea, because with steroids, you are typically looking (and paying) for a systemic (i.e. whole body system) anabolic (muscle building) and lipolytic (fat burning) effect. Although some of the steroids you apply topically will go systemic, it's a huge waste of money compared to oral or injectable steroids. You're losing 70%+ of what you paid for.

Why do I use topical solutions? Well, I don't use topical anabolics, firstly. I use topical "Targex" and I make my own custom topical (Nicotine, Yohimbe, & Caffeine) because I want a localized (non-systemic) effect from it (fat burning in a specific area). I would never reccomend using a topical anabolic...but trying to get a localized effect from a topical fat burner is very possible, and isn't as much of a waste, per results gained.

Try TargeX, if you're looking for a topical fat burner.

 

[needtogetaas]

Topical steroids is a pretty horrible idea, because with steroids, you are typically looking (and paying) for a systemic (i.e. whole body system) anabolic (muscle building) and lipolytic (fat burning) effect. Although some of the steroids you apply topically will go systemic, it's a huge waste of money compared to oral or injectable steroids. You're losing 70%+ of what you paid for.

Why do I use topical solutions? Well, I don't use topical anabolics, firstly. I use topical "Targex" and I make my own custom topical (Nicotine, Yohimbe, & Caffeine) because I want a localized (non-systemic) effect from it (fat burning in a specific area). I would never reccomend using a topical anabolic...but trying to get a localized effect from a topical fat burner is very possible, and isn't as much of a waste, per results gained.

Try TargeX, if you're looking for a topical fat burner.

you suck

 

[jimbolon]

why does he suck? do you disagree? what is the best combination for a fat burner that can be applied transdermally? why nicotine, caffeine and yohimbine???
Do you use equal quantities and how often and what is your preparation and application technique?? What are the 'expected results' for yourself and over what time frame??

thanks

 

[jimbolon]

I would like to know a few things! I am a newbie, so am still trying to learn. Hopefully people on this forum are full of the wisdom I'm looking for. I am hoping to get a few things clear in my mind straight away, as I have read lots already and really think I should understand a few things before i keep reading....

What do you mean by 'topical'? Does this mean localized rather than fully systemic? and would you please explain the idea behind the combination of nicotine, caffeine and yohimbine hcl.... or was this some kind of joke?!
I can understand that injecting is more effective for certain steroids, but can a good result be achieved from applying any of them trans-dermally?

Finally, please explain the procedure and amounts etc, for applying Yohimbine for example with phlojel.

thanks very much.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

why does he suck? do you disagree? what is the best combination for a fat burner that can be applied transdermally? why nicotine, caffeine and yohimbine???
Do you use equal quantities and how often and what is your preparation and application technique?? What are the 'expected results' for yourself and over what time frame??

thanks

As for the nicotine/caffeine/yohimbe thing check out my website and look at the article "Fat to Figure" ....the girl in those photos was one who I made a transdermal AI/Caffeine/Yohimbe/Nicotine mixture for. Here's a link to my site, and the article is on the lower left hand side:

www.anthony-roberts.com

Also, after she used the topical I made for her, I made another one for her and some other girls (without the inclusion of the OTC AIs) and we found that it more or less worked almost as well. In me, it worked 100% as well without the AI (although technically, Nicotine is an AI....what I'm saying is that it worked as well without the inclusion of the "other" AIs). If you want the full recipe, check out my Blog (also on my website) and read through the posts...I listed it somewhere in there.