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Toronto Police are on Work to Rule - WTF

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Thousands of police officers have voted unanimously in favour of job action to support their contract demands.

“We're not asking for the moon," said Dave Wilson, Pres., of Toronto Police Services Assn.

"We're asking for a fair contract. We could do it in a day and have this over. They're not prepared to do that. They haven't met with us or reached out to us."

As an essential service, cops can’t legally strike. So they’re looking for other ways to let the city know they’re unhappy about not having a contract since December 31st.

A refusal to hand out parking tickets is just one possible way Toronto Police could show their displeasure.

They may also wear ball caps to show their anger, and could stage an all out work slowdown that would see them responding only to true emergencies.

Talks broke down last month after a mediator failed to reach a settlement between the two sides.

Two major issues remain on the table between the union and the Police Services Board – working hours and retention pay.

The Board, which includes Mayor David Miller and chair Pam McConnell, is apparently asking that officers work 3.5 more hours per month – hours it alleges they’re already getting paid for under the current structure.

The Association charges that they’ve misrepresented the issue, and that it would mean officers being forced to work on their days off for free.

The other issue, retention pay, involves a reduction in the amount currently devoted to keeping officers in Toronto.

Retention pay was introduced three years ago as a way to keep cops in the city, rather than leaving for police services in other parts of the province.

The Board believes retention is no longer an issue, and wants to reduce the amount committed to it. The Association feels without the extra money, the force will begin losing officers again.

The union also wants McConnell to resign, charging she’s anti-rank and file.

But Mayor David Miller insists that’s her decision. And as for the job action itself? He refuses to talk about ongoing negotiations.

“It's very important that our police officers be paid properly and fairly,” he notes evasively. “They have a very tough job to do, but it's also important from the city building aspect that we be able to deliver those services efficiently and effectively, and I certainly think there's room for both sides to reach agreement based on those principles.”

But Miller vows public safety won't be affected, no matter what happens.

“I'm sure the Police Association will use its good sense. Front line police officers, their job is to protect the safety of people. We’ve got a sworn duty to do that. No, they're not going to do anything that's going to jeopardize the safety of Torontonians. And beyond that they're entitled to express their opinions. That's fair enough.”
 
DieselGunz said:
Crazy shit, you need to come to the states :worried:
:lmao: Why cause you guys have the market on low crime rates? Bwahahahahahahaahha


Sweet I can drive like a mad woman and not get a ticket. Work to rule is no biggy IMO the reply to all emergency stuff just don't give out traffice tickets and what not.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
:lmao: Why cause you guys have the market on low crime rates? Bwahahahahahahaahha


Sweet I can drive like a mad woman and not get a ticket. Work to rule is no biggy IMO the reply to all emergency stuff just don't give out traffice tickets and what not.


hey not all US is bad :)


I speed too damn we need that here!
 
thank god it's not the fire dept...

what if we get a fire in our pants

:worried:
superqt4u2nv said:
:lmao: Why cause you guys have the market on low crime rates? Bwahahahahahahaahha


Sweet I can drive like a mad woman and not get a ticket. Work to rule is no biggy IMO the reply to all emergency stuff just don't give out traffice tickets and what not.
 
*MissFit* said:
thank god it's not the fire dept...

what if we get a fire in our pants

:worried:

Note to self:
Now I must train to put out fires and save lives in Canada. And I`m looking forward to my new line of work..
 
City is fucked, they need more police officers as crime is crazy and are stalling on that and nowthey insist on pissing off the ones they have.

Fucked up city hall!!!
 
hey it wont change the cover they give you, working to rule just means working strictly to the regulations of employment, i.e. going home on time, no over time etc. if you work to rule you can simply go home exactly on time and there is nothing they can do. thats just one example but there are many others.
 
plus its no biggie if the fire service strike, ours do it every so often the army come in and cover.
 
*MissFit* said:
how u liking toronto :P

I am enjoying it, once my life is back to normal I know I will love it and probably never wanna go back out west.

I was meant to live in a big city!


But I will never cheer for the Leafs, Argos, E V E R!!!! ;)
 
The Bigdawg said:
I am enjoying it, once my life is back to normal I know I will love it and probably never wanna go back out west.

I was meant to live in a big city!


But I will never cheer for the Leafs, Argos, E V E R!!!! ;)

You will bleed blue in my life time mark my words you think you ever love the city this much? NO but you do. Can’t argue with my cause you know I am always right ;)
 
The Bigdawg said:
crime is crazy

Crime is crazy in Toronto? Try Houston or New York City.

Of course, if your cops would stop handing out 5 minute roughing penalties, people would actually take your cops seriously.
 
That's cuz stpuid Toronto police service is unionized unlike the RCMP or the army. Union + public service = problems...
 
gotmilk said:
Crime is crazy in Toronto? Try Houston or New York City.

Of course, if your cops would stop handing out 5 minute roughing penalties, people would actually take your cops seriously.


LOL so true, our laws make it so easy for criminals
 
superqt4u2nv said:
You will bleed blue in my life time mark my words you think you ever love the city this much? NO but you do. Can’t argue with my cause you know I am always right ;)


get real close to the screen young lady!!!

NOT A FUCKING CHANCE!!!!!! ;) ;)
 
They want them to work an extra WEEK for no pay.

Mandatory o/t w/o pay. I don't know any worker who'd be happy with such a proposed change.

Fortunately they have a union. If it was RCMP, they'd be fubar'd and have to bend over and accept it.

PD's should never be short on cash. If they are -- they cut corners. When corners get cut -- victims don't receive the amount of resources and help they need. Computer systems don't upgraded. Cops get sub-par equipment. More criminals get away. Never good.

OTOH American big city PD's have atrocious budgets. It's amazing the shit they got.
 
Fuck tha police,
Comin straight from the underground.
Young nigga got it bad cuz i'm brown,
And not the other color so police think,
They have the authority to kill a minority.
 
The Bigdawg said:
City is fucked, they need more police officers as crime is crazy

For a city this size crime here is low. I'm not sure which part of Toronto you're in, hell even if you were at Jane/Finch crime is still very low compared to the other major cities.
 
Razorguns said:
They want them to work an extra WEEK for no pay.

Mandatory o/t w/o pay. I don't know any worker who'd be happy with such a proposed change.

Well people paid on a yearly basis have to go through....
 
wutangnomo said:
For a city this size crime here is low. I'm not sure which part of Toronto you're in, hell even if you were at Jane/Finch crime is still very low compared to the other major cities.

Jane/Finch corridor is grossly over-hyped in terms of crime. The crime hotbed of Toronto is overwhelmingly Scarborough.

You're right though, crime in Toronto this year has been much worse than previous but it is still light years better than an American city a quarter of the size.
 
bluepeter said:
Jane/Finch corridor is grossly over-hyped in terms of crime. The crime hotbed of Toronto is overwhelmingly Scarborough.

You're right though, crime in Toronto this year has been much worse than previous but it is still light years better than an American city a quarter of the size.

I do agree with you that the Jane/Finch area is blown way out of proportion in terms of crime. I also agree that Scarborough is a crime hotbed. Mind you, I would also add in Etobicoke north (Rexdale). Then again, you can't compare Jane/Finch to Scarborough as Scarborough is pretty darn large, whereas Jane/Finch is just a little cross section of crime.

Blame Razorguns for everything. lol
 
wutangnomo said:
I do agree with you that the Jane/Finch area is blown way out of proportion in terms of crime. I also agree that Scarborough is a crime hotbed. Mind you, I would also add in Etobicoke north (Rexdale). Then again, you can't compare Jane/Finch to Scarborough as Scarborough is pretty darn large, whereas Jane/Finch is just a little cross section of crime.

Blame Razorguns for everything. lol

Good idea :)
 
wutangnomo said:
lol

Admit it, you're a Canadian at heart and desperately want to come back. :)

I go where the bucks are.

Improve the economy, reduce taxes, put more in my pocket -- we'll talk. I'm not gonna be a working slave to the government.

They could begin by increasing immigration of skilled folks, and pumping more money into the economy from their presence. Higher populations of working folks increases wealth and provides fertile opportunities for capitalism to reign supreme.
 
Razorguns said:
I go where the bucks are.

Improve the economy, reduce taxes, put more in my pocket -- we'll talk. I'm not gonna be a working slave to the government.

They could begin by increasing immigration of skilled folks, and pumping more money into the economy from their presence. Higher populations of working folks increases wealth and provides fertile opportunities for capitalism to reign supreme.

You learn Spanish yet?
 
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