yoop33 said:
I met Tommy in a bar in Tennessee a couple of years ago. Nobody recognized him, I was bouncing ( I know, oldest bouncer ever) and got talking. Very nice guy, very down to earth, still looked solid and strong. Still has an eye for the ladies, although there was slim pickins that night.Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
bruce410 said:
I don't know if that was directed to me wasn't knocking him but he doestn't look like the pictue I respect anybody who steps in the ring. I won the 2000 Golden Gloves in Pennsylvania in the lightweight division I was to small to fight Tommy. Maybe I can fight him nowadays I am getting close to his weight. I like Tommy but he was marketed well because he is white I think he was good fighter but he wasn't beating many world class fighters. I actually thought when Ray Mercer destroyed him he wouldn't fight after that. He only beat one world class fighter and that was Gerge Foreman and he danced the whole fight. Check his record good fighter not world class.extremefighter said:
mookie said:
Many, many people that tested positive are now testing negative. It doesn't necessarily mean they are not carriers and able to pass it on to others but the levels are so low that the test doesn't detect it. Magic Johnson has been getting clean tests for years.Dr. JK said:
Bro, I agree with you that Morrison is a world class fighter and these ex amature boxers that think they can hop in there with him would get their ass kicked. It's like the 5 handicap golfer that's 40 years old that thinks he's going to go out on the seniors tour at 50 and roll those guys. Hell, if you can't beat them at 30 you're not going to beat them 20 years later when they have another 400 tournaments under their belt. But, even though I agree with your point on Morrison, lets leave out the racist bullshit.extremefighter said:
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
dude nobody is hatin on the WHITE Man. I said Morrison would be able to last with either one of the Klitschko brother, who are by the way WHITE. I'm just saying that a 11 year layoff is a tough road to comeback from. And yes he will get whored out by HBO, and everyone knows it. The Heavyweight division is not full of the greatest contenders, so he'll make his way to a title contention through subpar tune up fights, and before you know it, and maybe before he's even ready, he'll be staring down the fist of Vladimir Klitschko.extremefighter said:
sofakingdel said:
Bro I never said he wasn't that good READ MY POST He was a good fighter not a world class fighter. Everytime he stepped up he got knocked the fuck out go look at his fights. I considered world class fighters Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones, Marvin Hagler those kind of fighters my question to you what to you consider a world class fighter a guy that knocked out 35 club fighters is not a world class fighters it makes him a good fighter but not world class.extremefighter said:
mookie said:
Relax tough guy train 10 years in the Phila gyms see how long you last. I will ask you the same qustion if he is a world class fighter what is Roy Jones, Lennox Lewis, Marvin Hagler, you consider Tommy Morrison in the same league as them you are on crack. I don't know what is racist about my statement they moved him along fighting club fighters marketed him because he is white the great white hope just couldn't beat the top guys it happens alot in boxing. I fought many top fighters some did kick my ass some didn't but anytime you wonna come up to my gym Joe Hands in Phila your welcomed to I am there 5 days a week.bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Bro I am WHITE I am only 180lbs right now I was joking about fighting Morrison you fucking idiot. Never said I was great won the Golden Golves in 2000 lost in 1998, and 99 don't know what fantasy world you think I live in work 40 hrs a week take care of my kids and still spar about 3 times a week that is my fantasy world. lolextremefighter said:
bigcountry61 said:
Yo Mookie & Bruce wut do you think about Hopkins/Wright fight? Both are tactical fighters and both try and control the pace (slow), who comes out on top.mookie said:Here you go with your Roy Jones againHagler in 5
. To be honest with you Roy is one of my favorite fighters I am still mad he beat Toney lost some money. I just like Haglers style seek and destroy.
I am still trying to figure this one out I can't believe Hopkins took this fight you can't look good against Winky he is just that good. I am a big Bernard Hopkins fan see him alot the guy beat Trindad and was in the gym 5 days later always in great condition. My early predictions is Hopkinks by close decision. Have to see how Hopkins does in camp my decision might change.sofakingdel said:
bruce410 said:
mookie said:Yeah I was laughing when I was reading his post. He didn't know I was just a big fan of Mookie Blaylock. I hope he doesn't find out I am dating a black girl I might have a cross on my lawn
yes he knocked money out in the secondfloridalife said:
What the fuck are you talking about? I was referring to extremefighters racist comments not any comment you made. As for you calling me a "tough guy" what in my post made me sound like I was playing that role? And finally, if you think you can hop in there with Morrison, good luck. The guy was never the best but he was definitely top 10 when he was in his prime and you were....I don't know because I never saw you fight. But, I'm sure you weren't anywhere near top 10 in the world. If you were top 100, then you were a bad mofo and maybe you were but if you were in Morrisons league you would have been fighting for big money. Some of you fighters just want to call people out. It's always, 'oh yeah, you don't think I'm a badass? Come to my gym and I'll show you" Grow up dude, I lift for one reason and one reason only - PUSSY!mookie said:
mookie said:
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Fuck bro, I know you could! You should do it.needtogetas said:
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
now check this
nicely put wags. this was a good thread turned bad, maybe we could bring it back aroundwags8 said:
When the fuck did I say I was black and who cares if I am black and 180 is a lot closer to heavyweight than 135lbs. White heavyweights sell tickets if you don't know that you don't know nothing about boxing he was called the great white hope just like Gerry Cooney before him. The whole arguement was he is not a world class fighter.extremefighter said:
What qualifies as a "world class" fighter? He was definitely top 10 material when he was at his best and i would say top 10 is world class. Also, white fighter don't sell tickets any better than any other fighters. No fighter ever generated the money that Tyson did. DeLaHoya has seen some big paydays. Winkie, Roy, Lennox, Evander, Leondard and Hearns and Hagler in their day.......How much is Klitchko generating? Very little in comparison. People want to see the best and they'll pay for the best. People liked Morrison because he was an exciting fighter. He didn't have the best jaw but he could knock mothers out. That's what people want. Why do you think Michael Nunn had such a short career? He always seemed to win but he was boring and nobody wanted to pay to see him fight. Black, white or hispanic - put on a good show and people wont care what color your skin is.mookie said:
For the record I don't wonna fight Morrison if I ever fight again I will try to make 154lbs maybe 147lbs. And for the record I am not a badass just got a little hot with the other guy I still think you guys are crazy thinking he is a world class fighter.bluetwistedsteel67 said:
mookie sup bro.mookie said:
If you don't think white American heavyweights sell tickets and they don't hype them up you know nothing about boxing it is no secret about that. A world class fighter is Holyfield, Roy Jones, Hagler, Hopkins those guys Morrison beat one world class fighter Foreman and he was 47 years old and he danced the whole fight. If you saw the Ray Mercer fight the reason Mercer was so mad at Morrison because he said he was hyped and made all of this money and he is such a better figher then him and made nothing compared to Morrison.bluetwistedsteel67 said:
All I am saying is that probably the top 20 earners in boxing history were not white. Name one white fighter that made really big money. Great heavyweights sell tickets NOT just great white heavyweights.mookie said:
6 million is nothing for a top fighter, especially a fighter that has a record of 58-4. What's Oscar's win %? Probably similar to Nunn and how much has he made? Probably 30 times what Nunn made. My point is that Nunn was a boring fighter and because of that he didn't sell tickets. You know the fight game. Of 6 million in purses he probably saw 3 million after payouts and expenses. He fought for about 13 years I think (I could be off on that) so he made about 250k a year. Not much for a professional athlete.mookie said:
Kinda like my erections. Fricking deca!immortalis said:This thread started off as a shit-fest... then actually turned into a pretty good discussion... and then it just went bigtime downhill again *sigh*
Bro I am not disagreeing on Nunn he was a boring fighter but 6 million is alot in boxing the only fighters that make money are the ones that can fight on payper view and when Nunn fought most of his fights were before payper view. He probably didn't even see 3 million boxing is a dirty game.bluetwistedsteel67 said:
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Actually I just started back up.immortalis said:
Well Tommy Morrison made alot of money and he wasn't a great heavyweight. Gatti has made alot of money and he deserves every penny of it. There aren't that many great white fighters anymore back in the day yes but they didn't make money back then. If Rocky Marciano fought today he would be a billionare. Didn't you every see the Great White Hype it was a comedy how the hype up this white heavyweight to be the next great white hope. Promoters look for white heavyweights you can ask any boxer or promoter it is fact white heavyweights sell tickets.bluetwistedsteel67 said:
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
solidspine said:
yes blue this is true to a point,but in my opinion, they don't hype you because you are white black or whatever. they will hype you if you are the first of your kind usually. there was no big tough power white heavyweight at the time so they hyped tommy. when the klitscho brothers first came about they were hyped cause they were beating down blacks, they were the minority in the sport feel me. there size was worthy of the other athletes that were usually bigger than the white boxers. look at nash or yao in the nba. i think kobe or lebron deserved the mvp last year but nash gets it. i think cause he is a minority in the nba. yes yao is huge and deserved hype but he wasn't that good, he is huge and abnormal for chinese man. so they hype him, its all business. i think leagues are actually some of the best at making races equal. look at tennis, the hype is all over james blake now, not federer. why? cause blake is black like serena and tiger and they are waiting for him to take over the white sport. i really hope i don't sound racist. these are only my opinions. i think its just business, they are not trying to be racist but by singling out certain races they are in a harmless way. i think it is good for kids growing up to see there is no race when it comes to talent. sports bring out talent and heart and you cannot hide them with race. we tried it for years in the states but its over now. they hype athletes that are the first of their kind its easy money for endorsements and promoting leagues. i don't buy into the fact that morrison was hyped more than other fighters that were black, cause no one ever shuts up about jeff lacey the next great american fighter. he is black and got pummeled by the joe calzaghe who is far from black. lacey was easy to market, he looked like tyson, and seemed like he would go far. its business fellas, and race plays into it.bluetwistedsteel67 said:
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