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Told Doc About Steroid Use ...

THeMaCHinE

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Kinda surreal. Didn't intend to get into it ... was in the physical and the doc and I are talking about shows (she's a competitive bb qualified for nationals -- which is one of the reasons my wife and I chose her).

Well, we go through everything, talk about blood tests and then she's like -- "well, do we need to talk about anything else?"

I'm like, "like what?"

She says "you know, steroids."

She goes on to say she's not going to tell anybody and that she won't write comments in the charts, that she feels it's a personal decision what people do (i.e. she's a juicer, but can't come out and say it). She just sit there and looks at me like she already knows ...

So, I spill the beans and we talk about what type of cycles I run, anti-e's, clen, albuterol, insulin, gh, etc... Interestingly, she thinks deca is one of the best AS out there in terms of safety and benefits and loves the deca/test stack (a favorite of mine as well).

Then she basically offers to monitor my blood while I'm on and proposes that I get blood work done (which we had already talked about) a couple times -- now (post-cycle), in a couple months (normalized for baseline) and when I'm at the peak of my next cycle. I thought that was very cool. It will be nice to know what is what and have a doc that can watch things.

On top of it, perhaps I'll get prescribed -- she seemed very amenable to the idea that I had low test levels; we'll get the blood tests back and know more.

Then, she diagnosed me with fatigue and sexual dysfunction so that I could get lab tests on my blood.

I will have results for: ALT (SGPT), AST (SGOT) FSH, LH, lipid profile, prolactin, PSA total (what is that?), free T, testes/total/bio, TSH and T3.

Nice to have a doc watching over things. Trippy experience just talking about it with somebody I met for the first time, but I'm glad it happened.
 
PSA = prostate specific antigen, a marker of prostate health/illness and often used to try and identify prostate cancer early on.

DrG

PS: Sounds like a great doc, you're lucky.
 
drgoodbody said:
PSA = prostate specific antigen, a marker of prostate health/illness and often used to try and identify prostate cancer early on.

DrG

PS: Sounds like a great doc, you're lucky.

Thanks for the info DrG -- what are ALT (SGPT) and AST (SGOT)?

Also, do you happen to know that if I'm in the 4th week of post cycle and still taking 5-10 mg/day of nolva if that'll skew any of the tests? She was out pretty quick after ordering the lab tests and I didn't get a chance to discuss it with her...
 
I have to run right now, but AST and ALT are: aspartate aminotransferase (AST) and alanine aminotransferase (ALT).

Both are liver enzymes. Will write more later.

DrG
 
drgoodbody said:
I have to run right now, but AST and ALT are: aspartate aminotransferase (AST) and alanine aminotransferase (ALT).

Both are liver enzymes. Will write more later.

DrG

Cool, thanks :)
 
Sounds like a good deal to me, we should al be so lucky as to find such an understanding Doc.
 
AND she is a female in "the game" SCORE!! I salute you for bravery (telling the doc) and I envy you for your luck :). Is she single?
 
I have the same kind of Doc. a family friend, who was keeping all of our AAS conversations off the record. That is a great peace of mind!!!
 
newpump said:
AND she is a female in "the game" SCORE!! I salute you for bravery (telling the doc) and I envy you for your luck :). Is she single?

Yeah, she's single -- but I'm not... lol... Not sure if I could hook up an Internet date for you ... could give it a try...

I really wasn't going to say anything, but she knew -- and she drug it out of me...
 
GUNZ-007 said:
I have the same kind of Doc. a family friend, who was keeping all of our AAS conversations off the record. That is a great peace of mind!!!

Do you just basically do the same thing? (Have your blood work monitored). Is there anything else that I should be asking?
 
We did the blood work before i started to get a base and he checked everything. We will check it mid cycle and at completion.
 
damn, i'd love to find a bb doc. i don't care if it's a female, male, transvestite or a monkey as long as they GET IT and can give you some good advice/help.

GOOD FOR YOU!!
 
I told a doc that I was using one time and if he would prescribe me some HCG for coming off. He asked how much I was on and all of that and told me there were other alternatives to just using HCG and for me to come in if I needed more help. I never went back, but the moral is, they cant say anything to anyone. I made sure before I told him that is was a patient, Dr. thing and that it was between he and I. Another Dr. in the ER one time told me that they can only go to the cops if you are indangering yourself or others. She sounds cool, if they were all like that, it would make things easier on all of us. BamBam
 
Bro, your doc can lose her license if she gets busted. Make sure to keep her identity sacred. With HIPAA it is very easy to find out who your doc is if someone just has your name and area that you live in.

just my .02
 
newbie_101 said:
Bro, your doc can lose her license if she gets busted. Make sure to keep her identity sacred. With HIPAA it is very easy to find out who your doc is if someone just has your name and area that you live in.

just my .02


Why? Because she diagnosed him with sexual disfunction and fatigue?
Who can argue that, and on what basis???

One of the reasons doctors and AAS user are so far apart is because of this feeling of intimidation doctors have.
I am a doctor and I have consulted with the proper authority and I know where I can go and where I cannot, and there is soooooo much I CAN do ( Brazil). I do blood work requisitions FOR FREE to all bros look for me seeking help. I have prevented trouble in A LOT of people and it really pisses me off when I get some collegue saying that I´m condoning AAs use.
I´m helping people, for God sakes!!! I swore I´d do that in my graduation ceremony!
No wonder why I can´t find a single one that knows what the hell I´m talking about steroid wise...Ohhh noo, steroids....bad....won´t touch it!!!! Don´t care!!!
Hellloooo!!! there are THOUSANDS of people needing medical atention and follow up that will have problems because medical comunity is looking the other way!!!they say" I wouldn´t prescribe a drug for vanity purposes"...Oh, no??? What about GENERAL ANESTHESIA for extensive plastic surgerys??? What are those? A vital necessity??
AAAARRRGHHHH!!!!
 
Got one like that in my area too. He's even offered to prescribe test to me. I didn't take him up on his offer due to the fact that he sells it out of his office a friend of mine is using some and I don't think the quality is all that high if you can believe that.
It's obviously coming from a compounding pharm has high BA and hurts like a bitch.
But if you can believe this, and I'm not lying. He offered to start me on 800mgs/week of his test.
I'm not sure he's all that knowledgeable in the area. I only go to him for blood work. It's nice to be able to tell someone you've just come off a steriod cycle and want to check to see if everythings ok without them looking at you like you're some kind of junkie.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
Kinda surreal. Didn't intend to get into it ... was in the physical and the doc and I are talking about shows (she's a competitive bb qualified for nationals -- which is one of the reasons my wife and I chose her).

Well, we go through everything, talk about blood tests and then she's like -- "well, do we need to talk about anything else?"

I'm like, "like what?"

She says "you know, steroids."

She goes on to say she's not going to tell anybody and that she won't write comments in the charts, that she feels it's a personal decision what people do (i.e. she's a juicer, but can't come out and say it). She just sit there and looks at me like she already knows ...

So, I spill the beans and we talk about what type of cycles I run, anti-e's, clen, albuterol, insulin, gh, etc... Interestingly, she thinks deca is one of the best AS out there in terms of safety and benefits and loves the deca/test stack (a favorite of mine as well).

Then she basically offers to monitor my blood while I'm on and proposes that I get blood work done (which we had already talked about) a couple times -- now (post-cycle), in a couple months (normalized for baseline) and when I'm at the peak of my next cycle. I thought that was very cool. It will be nice to know what is what and have a doc that can watch things.

On top of it, perhaps I'll get prescribed -- she seemed very amenable to the idea that I had low test levels; we'll get the blood tests back and know more.

Then, she diagnosed me with fatigue and sexual dysfunction so that I could get lab tests on my blood.

I will have results for: ALT (SGPT), AST (SGOT) FSH, LH, lipid profile, prolactin, PSA total (what is that?), free T, testes/total/bio, TSH and T3.

Nice to have a doc watching over things. Trippy experience just talking about it with somebody I met for the first time, but I'm glad it happened.

Where do I find a Doc that thinks along these lines???
 
Hmm... I don't think HIPAA would endager this doc. She was following "good practice" in terms of standard medical procedure. She didn't provide any AAS, or provide any advice that would be considered "sketchy". I think she is a solid "open minded" doc PRACTICING (key word here - medical work is PRACTICE) good medicine. Rock on machine. Oh - and be good to the future "Mrs. Newpump" next time you go in for a visit :).
 
Zyglamail said:
Sounds like a good deal to me, we should al be so lucky as to find such an understanding Doc.

LOL. There have been at least one or two of these on this board for years.
 
for all

we all have the right to speak to our doctors about AS use, with complete confidentuality. I believe that is the right way to go.

unclep
 
Most docs are not educated in the field of antiaging/longevity/performance enhancement. Many take the negative side and refuse to diagnose and prescribe. Many do not know the proper blood tests, how to read them, or know anything about the use of anabolics and the ancillaries. Remember, today's docs are trained to treat disease. You can inform your doc of your AAS use, but I think it is something to keep private for now. Most docs will not be as understanding and liberal-minded.

There are a few docs (myself included) that have gone back and re-read our genetics, biochemistry, physiology, anatomy, and pharamcology textbooks and we can see the benefits of properly prescribed anabolics and ancillaries. Unfortunately, there isn't much current, credible research on practical anabolics..so we depend on our basic science knowledge and anecdotal evidence. I try to read as much as possible about the subject and I even read some foreign studies. So, for now, I go with what works and what is safe.

The other problem is pharmacies. It is difficult to find a pharmacy to work with. It has taken me a year to find two pharmacies that understand the needs, the privacy, the confidentiality of the client/patient. The traditional pharmacist is also trained to prescribe for diseases. They (and insurance companies) frown upon elective use of medications. By elective, I mean non-disease state. Progressive docs and progressive pharmacists are walking a fine line, and will continue walking that line until the public, the medical establishment and government establish acceptable guidelines. This may take years.
 
DrJMW said:
Progressive docs and progressive pharmacists are walking a fine line, and will continue walking that line until the public, the medical establishment and government establish acceptable guidelines. This may take years.

Good post.

Is there anything significant being done to change the current views?
 
beastboy said:


Good post.

Is there anything significant being done to change the current views?

Not much. Maybe there should be a million roiders march. LOL I can see all it now...a million gorilla-men storming the capital in cut off shirts!
 
You are a lucky bastard!
Even though I live in Canada and have free health care, I would pay extra to have a doc like that.
 
i went to the doc once for test and he was totally cool. He simply told me about my lab results and gave me a list of supplements to use instead of roids. Not pushy at all.-Josh
 
Why couldn't you just go into a regular doctor's office and complain of fatigue and sexual dysfunction....wouldn't that be enough for them to reccomend a blood test? or no? just curious...
UD
 
under_dawg said:
Why couldn't you just go into a regular doctor's office and complain of fatigue and sexual dysfunction....wouldn't that be enough for them to reccomend a blood test? or no? just curious...
UD
Yes I think this would get you a test level screening.
 
I was just there for a routine physical. It developed from there. I had an idea that it might (due to her bb status), but no intention of getting into it. She made the move. Once she knew what I was up to, she wanted to do the bloodwork and basically let me name the tests i wanted. I think it turned out better this way.
 
I agree that in your case Machine, it turned out better, but considering the stigmatization one might face presenting their doctor with the truth, i'd stick to faking the sexual dysfuncion and fatigue (unless you really are suffering from this, in which case sorry).
UD
 
I was a bit more trusting than I might have been had it been another doc. This doctor is qualified for NPC nationals and gave off every possible signal (without outright saying it) of being cool with it, plus assured me that in addition to patient confidentiality that she wouldn't note it in the charts.
 
VERY cool doc but if it were me as doc I couldn't imagine saying anything but "dont do em" just to protect myself. A lot at risk for her...

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THeMaCHinE said:
... Interestingly, she thinks deca is one of the best AS out there in terms of safety and benefits and loves the deca/test stack (a favorite of mine as well...).


I would have to agree 100% there. I have never heard of alot of side effects on reasonable dosages of deca and i see great results on a variety of users.
 
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