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To Become a PRO BODYBUILDER?????????????????

WannaBPowerful

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How do you know if you have what it takes to become a pro bodybuilder? The trial and error thing isnt appealing, not worth it to put on all that mass and then find out ur not gonna make it. Are there things you can look for to know if u would be good for it?
 
WannaBPowerful said:
not worth it to put on all that mass and then find out ur not gonna make it.

Are there things you can look for to know if u would be good for it?

a statement like that speaks for itself.

there are tons of people struggling to go pro. drive should be the first thing you have. genetics and bodytype helps for the second.
a pro didnt get into this sport to actually go pro, they got into it because they love what they do. the majority of successful atheletes got in it for the love of the game, not the payoff. bodybuilding doesnt have much of a payoff monetarily anyways.

as for can you tell without muscle whether you will be able to put on enough to go pro....no.
 
I want to become a pro...not in bodybuilding...but still a professional athlete.

Meet the pros...talk to them...find out what they really do from day to day and how their lives work. Make sure that you really do know what you are getting into...and how many years you will have to put into it...

B True
 
I think you need to be a fast gainer and have excellent tie ins and structure. Plenty of big guys around in gyms, but not many with shape and proportion.

If your the type that blows up after 2 years and takes overalls without any juice, then you can seriously consider going all the way.
 
You should also realize that you will have to take upwards of 2-3g of test, 600+mg deca, high androgens, gh, slin, etc...if you plan on being a pro bodybuilder...AND THEN JUST HOPE THAT YOU HAVE DECENT GENETICS...

B True
 
I used to compete as a Teenager - did 3 shows, anyway I quit after a couple of years when I started working - you know, too tired to hit the gym after work :)

I still went to see some contests with friends. I saw Lee Priest compete as a teenager back then. He literally blew all the other teenagers and aduts away. He took the Mr Australia overall as a teenager. You could tell then he would go all the way. I'm sure he was clean back then as well.
 
You were joking when you said that he is clean...right?

B True
 
He was back then, but not now :)

remeber at 5'4" you can fill out your frame much faster. He was big back then under lights, but if you stood next to him, he wasn't freaky at all. But now its different story off course ;)
 
The one thing you have to ask yourself is am i prepared to do the amount of drugs necessary to make it as a pro bodybuilder. You can put all the genetics, determination and other motivational crap aside and ask yourself that simple question, because that's what it boils down to.

One thing you need to make sure of, isthat you have a plan outside of bodybuilding, ie getting an education, getting some worthwhile work experience, basically setting yourself up for a life outside of bodybuilding, just in case you don't like it or don't make it.

With regard to Lee Priest Cool Col J, the guy hasn't been clean since he was 13. If you recall, he tested postive at the world champs in Malaysia as a teenager in 1991. I too saw Lee Priest as a teenager and there was nothing special in the way of genetics, he was simply prepared to do what it took (ie tons of drugs) in order to succeed.

Whatever you choose, good luck
 
How would you be able to tell if you had the genetics to compete professionally though?

Also, iv heard people say someone has great muscle "shape"? What do they mean by that?
 
vinylgroover said:
The one thing you have to ask yourself is am i prepared to do the amount of drugs necessary to make it as a pro bodybuilder. You can put all the genetics, determination and other motivational crap aside and ask yourself that simple question, because that's what it boils down to.

One thing you need to make sure of, isthat you have a plan outside of bodybuilding, ie getting an education, getting some worthwhile work experience, basically setting yourself up for a life outside of bodybuilding, just in case you don't like it or don't make it.

With regard to Lee Priest Cool Col J, the guy hasn't been clean since he was 13. If you recall, he tested postive at the world champs in Malaysia as a teenager in 1991. I too saw Lee Priest as a teenager and there was nothing special in the way of genetics, he was simply prepared to do what it took (ie tons of drugs) in order to succeed.

Whatever you choose, good luck
I'm sorry bro, but you are dead wrong! I have competed for the last 3 years and won in 4 out of the 7 shows I have done. My training partner has competed also but never really does that well. He is actually 3 years older than me, uses more gear than me, and his diet and training are nailed. Some people just don't have what it takes, you have to realize that. It pisses me off when people look at me our any other bodybuilder and say, "I could look just like him if I used steroids"! Give me a break! Whether you want to believe it or not bro, genetics play a huge roll in bodybuilding. More so than steroids them selves! Believe me, when I was natural I beat quit a few of guys that were not!
 
Hey Bouncer..

You plannin on goin pro?
Where would i get the gear if i wanted to juice, if i decided to start? You cant trust stuff off the streets, and its not legal to sell it online or anything. How can you be sure its the good stuff and its clean?
 
Re: Hey Bouncer..

WannaBPowerful said:
You plannin on goin pro?
Where would i get the gear if i wanted to juice, if i decided to start? You cant trust stuff off the streets, and its not legal to sell it online or anything. How can you be sure its the good stuff and its clean?

Buying off the streets is a great way to get raped on price, even if you find the real thing. If you decide you do want a source, you need to hang around the anabolic forums for a while, so that you earn trust, and good sources will come your way.
 
Re: Re: Hey Bouncer..

needsize said:


Buying off the streets is a great way to get raped on price, even if you find the real thing. If you decide you do want a source, you need to hang around the anabolic forums for a while, so that you earn trust, and good sources will come your way.

Needsize is right. Always do source checks also.
 
Re: Re: Re: Hey Bouncer..

goldenone said:


Needsize is right. Always do source checks also.

Exactly, not only do you need to trust that the guy getting your money isn't going to run with it, you also want to know that what he sends you isn't fake either, some of the fakes are pretty damn convincing. Mods and/or vets can help with letting you know if a source is legit
 
QUOTE]Originally posted by b fold the truth
You should also realize that you will have to take upwards of 2-3g of test, 600+mg deca, high androgens, gh, slin, etc...if you plan on being a pro bodybuilder...AND THEN JUST HOPE THAT YOU HAVE DECENT GENETICS...

B True
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You must be out of your mind. You don't need all that shit to compete. Its about genetics not drugs. That is like saying anyone that juices can compete and thats definitly not true. I see guys who juice all the time and are really big but shaped like shit. You can't posibly believe that all the pros take shit like you say.
 
Re: Hey Bouncer..

WannaBPowerful said:
You plannin on goin pro?
Where would i get the gear if i wanted to juice, if i decided to start? You cant trust stuff off the streets, and its not legal to sell it online or anything. How can you be sure its the good stuff and its clean?
i hope to bro, after a few shots at the USA's i think i can pull it off. your question about gear: that takes a few years bro, over time you start to meet connected people and it just takes off from there. when i first started using gear i would buy 100 dbol for $250! lol it just takes time bro. you have to pay your dews.
 
onemind said:
QUOTE]Originally posted by b fold the truth
You should also realize that you will have to take upwards of 2-3g of test, 600+mg deca, high androgens, gh, slin, etc...if you plan on being a pro bodybuilder...AND THEN JUST HOPE THAT YOU HAVE DECENT GENETICS...

B True


You must be out of your mind. You don't need all that shit to compete. Its about genetics not drugs. That is like saying anyone that juices can compete and thats definitly not true. I see guys who juice all the time and are really big but shaped like shit. You can't posibly believe that all the pros take shit like you say.
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I never said that genetics wasn't a factor. I compete in strongman. If I didn't work, slept a lot, had free equipment, and took every drug known to man...I still might not make it to the World's Strongest Man contest...much less winning it. Genetics play a role...but he must be willing to take the gear to get there...

B True
 
How much gear would be required?

And what could it do to me in the long run? Possibly i dont need to take as much as some poeple? I grow fairly quickly. Iv been liftin on n off for 5 years now. In my first serious year liftin this year, i went from 155 to 185 naturally. And that is without workin legs for the first 7months(beginner mistake). Luckily i have pretty good legs to start with and they grow fairly quickly. Just hope this progress keeps up. I didnt even start taking protein until my 4th month.

Growth genetics sounds pretty good right? Now i gotta hope for the shape and symmetry part. Only thing i can think of off the top of my head is i have wide ass shoulders and im 5'8.
 
Why would you want to go pro anyway? The money is just not there....Just noticed your the same age as me except im 230 pounds been lifting for about 3 years all naturall, and only in the last 3 months I started working the legs so I should be heavier.
 
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You must be out of your mind. You don't need all that shit to compete. Its about genetics not drugs. That is like saying anyone that juices can compete and thats definitly not true. I see guys who juice all the time and are really big but shaped like shit. You can't posibly believe that all the pros take shit like you say. [/B][/QUOTE]

I never said that genetics wasn't a factor. I compete in strongman. If I didn't work, slept a lot, had free equipment, and took every drug known to man...I still might not make it to the World's Strongest Man contest...much less winning it. Genetics play a role...but he must be willing to take the gear to get there...

I know you haft to take gear but not to the extreme that you said.
 
You must be out of your mind. You don't need all that shit to compete. Its about genetics not drugs. That is like saying anyone that juices can compete and thats definitly not true. I see guys who juice all the time and are really big but shaped like shit. You can't posibly believe that all the pros take shit like you say. [/B][/QUOTE]

ou must be out of your mind. B fold is right Do know what the average pro spends on growth hormone? $30,000 a year that is more then my car cost me. DO you think Ronnie Coleman is natural? Or Jay Cutler is all natural? Where do you get you info? You need to put down Flex and Muscle and Fitness. Pick up a better body building rag like Muscluar Devlopment. If you belive the top pros are not jucied out of the minds I have this little piece of real estate to sell you in Florida. Or how about a brige in New York. You need to come out of you little fairy world and open your eyes. I do belive it takes very rare genitcs to turn pro and tons of hard work and dedication. But most of them would never get to their size without STERIODS GH INSULIN. Pelase tell me this Lee Preist is how tall and he weights how much? Have you heard of a thing called genitc potential? If you think that they are clean because they passed thier drug test yea right they just know how to get around it or they are never tested. Oh yea do you think HHH in the WWE is natural? If he is then I am Santa FUCKING Claus and the Easter Bunny to.
 
the things you know the pros don't use that much of is what i am referring to.

any of the things u know so much about. i know a few state/national level bb's who have had to dip into their 401 k's and such. they are nowhere near pro and may not be without the added drugs. but leads me to believe most people at a high level in this sport are on a tremedous amount of drugs. there may be exceptions, but i would think not many. i know bfold knows quite a few high level athletes and prob has a very good idea of their supplement programs.
 
He just might and there probably is a lot of them on high doses of gear but if you need to do things like that to be a pro then why even bother is what I think.
 
I appreciate the responses

What would it be like if Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler and the rest of the bunch had listen to this stuff thoughl. Im sure they were tried to be talked out of it. They had the love of doing it, and the dedication and drive to do it though. Along with the genetics. These guys dont struggle for a living like u might think. They are all sponsored, payed to do articles, adds, guest posings, seminars, not to mention sometimes pickin up money for placing in compititions. Most of their suppliments, airfair, and stuff like that is payed for by their sponsors. Id say top 10 guys at the Olympia are living pretty damn comfortable. Im not settin my heart on this, but im not ruling it out yet either. I havent done it long enough to know. Im doin a show nov. 9th (my first one) in the teen division. Its normal, but im natural, so im sure il b up against some juice heads. If i do well, il go from there. We'll have to c.
 
The pro's use ungodly amounts of gear to achieve what they have, Ive had honest conversations with a few and they use more to bridge with then I use for a heavy cycle. But that being said, so do tons of other people that never look anything like a pro, the difference there is genetics and the drive to get there. Most people could inject 5x a day and never look like Coleman, so dont ever kid yourself into thinking that doing juice means anything if you dont have the genetics
 
lee priest filed for bankruptcy recently, had to move from beverly hills to lancaster california. talk about a difference. he was probably living alright. :p just a little too fast.
 
Hope we continue to keep the flames down to a minimum on here...

For those who really want to be a Pro..the sacrifice isn't perceived to be that large. For those who don't REALLY want to be a pro...the sacrifice is way too much.

B True
 
I am tired of hearing this nonsense about genetics and so on. Everyone who has given wannabepowerful advice to the effect that steroids is not the most imprtant factor is being plain irresponsible.

Have a look at any of the before shots of many of the top pro's, Lee Priest included, and most of you will realise that this nonsense of genetics being the key factor is a load of crap.

Wannabe, get one thing straight, you have to be prepared to take enormous amounts of GH, steroids etc etc to make it as a pro. I don't know what your genetics are like, and quite frankly i don't care, because it won't change the fact you will still need to do large amounts of drugs.

That is the first question you need to ask yourself, are you prepared to do that and to suffer any possible side effects because of it, be they financial, emotional or health.
 
I think you've misunderstood what a lot of us have tried to say. Obviously steroids are a given, you cannot achieve pro bodybuilder proportions without using sick amounts of them. But even then, that doesn't mean that you will look like Coleman if you take as many drugs as he does. Genetics, in the way of your muscle shape, insertions, joint size, and the overall amount of size that your frame will hold, that is where genetics are key. A thousand people could follow the exact same drug cycles as Coleman, but they'd be lucky if one out of that thousand could look anything close to him. If not, anyone willing to do the drugs could be a pro, and thats just not true!
 
brooklynboy how do you come up with such crap as spending 30 grand on growth you must be out of your mind to. [/B][/QUOTE]

I am sorry about the spelling but I have a cast on my hand so it is not that easy to type. I have never touched GH nor did I say I have. You do need to open up your mind and leave the Wieder world and come in to the real world. Your handle fits you perfectly one mind. Hey just out of curiousty what are your stats onemind? If you are curious about mine I am 6'3'' 235lbs and 8% BF and I am a degred engineer and make a nice living with my job. I think the pros are to far gone they need to come bsack to reallty I am tiered of seing Gh bellies. I hope Flex Wheeler does wel in his come back.
 
found this interesting....http://members.aol.com/usamuscle/bodybuildingsucks1.html




Oh my! He said what?!? Yes, your heard correctly. Bodybuilding sucks! I guess I should explain myself now.

It was only a few years ago that I got interested in Bodybuilding. Man, I was so excited! I went out and bought my first Bodybuilding magazine and read how I could slap Inches of muscle on my Chest in just 8 weeks, as well as gain 60lbs on my Bench press in a month! I looked at these at these steroid bloated monsters, and thought to myself "Wow I can't wait to look like him!". Little did I know about the secrets of Pro Bodybuilders hugeness!

Following the advice of some Gurus from FLEX, I started my "training". I tried it all, The "Weider System, " and a few of those other bozo gimics. I followed Mr Olympia's "Routine for Super Size!" faithfully, training at least 5 days a week, sometimes more, doing 6 sets of 15,12,10,8,6,and 4 reps of Flyes and Kickbacks, and Concentration curls, etc.

I was amazed by the Scientific graphs and charts showing how Joe Lifter added 20lbs of muscle in a week using an amazing "Breakthrough Supplement". I headed to my local GNC and got me a nice tub of Creatine, believing that in a week, my bench would skyrocket from 150 to 200.

Sadly I continued on this path until I was set straight by people who have learned the hard way themselves. They opened my eyes to the Corruption, greed, and mindless stupidity that is know as "Bodybuilding". Here are a few things I've learned:

1. WHY PRO BODYBUILDING IS A JOKE!

Yes, Yes, I admit that I had my dreams of being on the Mr. O stage someday. I thought that hard work and dedication is all that was needed to achieve a word class physique. It wasn't for some time that I came to see that FLEX wasn't telling the whole truth about the Pro's. In fact, of all the worthless magazines out there I think FLEX is the one who COMPLETELY ignores the fact that 99.9% of all Professional Bodybuilders spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to support an insane steroid habit.

Pro Bodybuilders are fakes. Sure when you are as juiced as Dorian was you can walk around the block and grow muscle! Not to mention they are genetically superior when it comes to muscle growth. half of these guys were 200lbs with 17 inch arms before they even touched a barbell! Only 1 in 1000 people has the genetics to build that type of muscle.

When you hear the word "Bodybulding," wouldn't you think that it would be a Healthy sport? No my friend. You go to see a Pro BB show and the healthiest people there are the audience members! Bodybuilding is no longer about who can build the best looking, strongest, muscular body, but about who can stick the most needles in his butt and live to show it. Pro Bodybuilders are some of the most unhealthy people on the planet.

If you ever get the chance to meet some of the "Pros" here are a few things to look for. Note the bloated, puffy looking that so many of them possess. Extremely notable in offseason Bodybuilders. One specific comes to mind: Lee Priest. I saw him last Spring in offseasin condition. Good lord! He looked like the Pilsbury Doughboy, with his pudgy gut, and incredibly round head. Note that these guys have an Acne problem worse than most teenagers. Also look for giant boils and sores from where their injection sites got infected. Nasser El Sonbaty had a huge, disgusting abscess on his bicep. Maybe you've noticed that many Bodybuilders are losing their hair? Hmmm. Gimme a break! Is it really worth sacrificing your health and taking years off you life and dying when you are 45 just so you can be "HYOOOJ" for a little while

Aside from being a walking Chemistry experiment gone wrong, most of the Pro's I've met were absloute jerks, and had the personality of a tree frog! I hate to think any young lifter would look up to these men. They are certainly not people to look up to.

Acceptable role models might be guys like Steeve Reeves, Reg Park, and other lifters from years past. They all had Physiques that are actually attainable through Hard work, and dedication. Unlike Mr Universe, who you will never look like, no matter how hard you train or how dedicated you are. More than likely, you won't get like that even WITH steroids! Even classic 70's Bodybuilders are better role models than todays guys. Ahhhnold, Franco Coumbo, Dave Draper. Sure these guys used steroids too, but not like your El Sonbaty's, Kovacs', Yates', and the others. At least Arnold had personality!

There you have it. Just a FEW of the reasons why Bodybuilding sucks (I can give more). In my opinion it is just a giant scam, all designed to get YOUR money! I'll go into that more a bit later.
 
That article caused something to click inside me, thanks for that,
I was losing the plot for a while.


Just thinking aloud :)
 
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