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glennds said:
did i miss pics of JA? where are they?


There was a contest thread between JA and Satch. It got closed down cause of alot of negative things that were going on...trust me you didnt miss much bro
 
i dont know what the fuss is about..
i'm very satisfied with my physique!!!!!!
and THATS whats important.

and JA may feel the same way about his physique.
you know.. it really doesnt matter what others think of you.
so if the dude feels good about his physique, all power to him.
 
Like it or not, those who juice are held to much higher expectations. And those who juice excessively are held to an even higher standard. A person providing pics showing a body readily attainable drug free should not be held in high regard or else even more bros will start juicing just for these minimal results. Before coming to boards like this, I thought very few bros at my gym were juicing since very few looked like needsize/quadsweep (and because I wouldn't juice), but after coming here I realized that even bros in bad shape juice simply because they're too lazy to train hard and eat right.

"i dont know what the fuss is about..
i'm very satisfied with my physique!!!!!!
and THATS whats important.

and JA may feel the same way about his physique.
you know.. it really doesnt matter what others think of you.
so if the dude feels good about his physique, all power to him."
 
when I first joined, I assumed all the "experts" were exactly that, so I took their word as gospel. Then I started to realize that I was taking advice from guys that were heavy juicers, that couldnt compare to what I had done naturally(and I am a brutal hardgainer). There are very few guys on here that I take at their word now, and only guys that have demonstrated either through their knowlege or physique, that they know more than me. Quadsweep and ironmaster come to mind
 
jubei said:
Exactly, and remember he just went through some fucked up shit if anybody remembers that. I was almost embarassed to be part of the board when I read that shit.

Fonz, since you're here anyways, how much dandilion and caffine is effective as a diuretic...lol. Or do you suggest anything else, that I can take on a fairly regular basis as long as i'm taking in alot of water?

Buy the ingredients for the "Taraxatone" formulation by Cytodyne off Vitaminshoppe and follow the exact ratios they use. It's like 70% cheaper... :) Works too.
 
CutEnough said:
Like it or not, those who juice are held to much higher expectations. And those who juice excessively are held to an even higher standard. A person providing pics showing a body readily attainable drug free should not be held in high regard or else even more bros will start juicing just for these minimal results. Before coming to boards like this, I thought very few bros at my gym were juicing since very few looked like needsize/quadsweep (and because I wouldn't juice), but after coming here I realized that even bros in bad shape juice simply because they're too lazy to train hard and eat right.

"i dont know what the fuss is about..
i'm very satisfied with my physique!!!!!!
and THATS whats important.

and JA may feel the same way about his physique.
you know.. it really doesnt matter what others think of you.
so if the dude feels good about his physique, all power to him."

Well, I'm shredded to the gills year round.....does that count? :)

And shocker of shocker's, Fonz only uses 1050mg AAS/week at his MAX. What you have to understand is that AAS only affect protein synthesis and catabolism.....people often forget that nutrient partioning agents that have an effect on insulin levels can MAGNIFY the effects of AAS 2-fold. I've been saying this for like 2 years now.
 
Fonz

I personally think you look good. The probable reason you aren't included as one of the most knowledgeable bros on Elite is because you haven't attained even close to their size although ingesting/injecting just about every steroid/growth hormone known to man in mega-doses. :) I know it was your personal choice to stay lean but the question is how far could you have come naturally? My guess is, with work, pretty damn close to where you are now but without the extreme cuts. The next question is, how long will it be before it all catches up to you and your health deteriorates?


Well, I'm shredded to the gills year round.....does that count?

And shocker of shocker's, Fonz only uses 1050mg AAS/week at his MAX. What you have to understand is that AAS only affect protein synthesis and catabolism.....people often forget that nutrient partioning agents that have an effect on insulin levels can MAGNIFY the effects of AAS 2-fold. I've been saying this for like 2 years now.
 
majutsu said:
JA is a hater - chickens coming home to roost. (Particularly tearing down other people and denigrating the efforts of successful female competitors at several well-documented times in the past. Hopefully he learned a little something about life in this. Maybe now he respects all bodybuilders regardless of race, creed or sex. There was a little feeding frenzy though, which was wrong, as those whom he's has insulted and denigrated after their successful wins in physique competition saw the tiny, unfit man spouting the rhetoric. Hopefully, JA has grown. Pain often helps.).

WTF are you talking about??? Like I said in my PM to you PLEASE POST THE LINKS TO WHERE I DENIGRATED THE EFFORTS OF A SUCCESSFUL FEMALE COMPETITOR You are completely full of shit or have me confused with someone else.

This is bullshit and I have no clue why you're attacking me like this. I don't ever recall having any sort of issue with you. I recall a positive discussion we had on the GH thread that was a sticky but dude, WTF are talking about??? Maybe now I respect all bodybuilders regardless of race, creed or sex??? WTF do you base that comment on?? Show me where I have ever disrespected any BBer on this board and I never post on this board again. I stand by comment on this so you say I've denigrated the efforts of successful female competitors at several well-documented times in the past??? Fucking show me then and I will pay you $1,000. You have my word on that.
 
CutEnough said:
Fonz

I personally think you look good. The probable reason you aren't included as one of the most knowledgeable bros on Elite is because you haven't attained even close to their size although ingesting/injecting just about every steroid/growth hormone known to man in mega-doses. :) I know it was your personal choice to stay lean but the question is how far could you have come naturally? My guess is, with work, pretty damn close to where you are now but without the extreme cuts. The next question is, how long will it be before it all catches up to you and your health deteriorates?


Well, I'm shredded to the gills year round.....does that count?

And shocker of shocker's, Fonz only uses 1050mg AAS/week at his MAX. What you have to understand is that AAS only affect protein synthesis and catabolism.....people often forget that nutrient partioning agents that have an effect on insulin levels can MAGNIFY the effects of AAS 2-fold. I've been saying this for like 2 years now.

My health will never deteriorate because I keep careful tabs on it. I'm probably in the 1% of guys on here who takes regular blood tests.
 
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