TKD and some advice needed

[Babyfaced Assassin]

Sorry if i'm just being ignorant but where can I find info about TKD?

Also what would be better for a hard training martial artist (thai boxing) who incorporates lifting and lots of cardio (trains 6 times a week) diet wise.
I wanna perform well and get ripped too

im around 13%bodyfat right now and wanna get to 6 or 7

 

[OXANDRIN]

www.google.com or try a "search" here on elite.

 

[Zagreus]

www.massmonsters.com

diet section and Mr. X articles section.

Mr. X outlines the entire program with a example journal.

Zag-

 

[Ceebs]

TKD isn't rocket science, it's just a diet. Simply put, you only eat carbs around your workouts, then eat ketogenically (ie, only protein and fat) the rest of the time.

 

[OXANDRIN]

tkd is more like a 50/20/30 diet


where as ckd would be a 50/50 diet on non carb up days

 

[Zagreus]

tkd is more like a 50/20/30 diet

I do not see how you ever have done TKD if you followed those ratios. Perhaps you have confused TKD with something else.

Ceebs is correct TKD is not rocket science but does require a basic understanding of ketogenic dieting and ones body. Read up on Mr. X's articles and you should get all the information you need.

Zag-

 

[OXANDRIN]

I do not see how you ever have done TKD if you followed those ratios. Perhaps you have confused TKD with something else.

Ceebs is correct TKD is not rocket science but does require a basic understanding of ketogenic dieting and ones body. Read up on Mr. X's articles and you should get all the information you need.

Zag-

figure it out. you are eating carbs before and after workouts....right? ok now go through the numbers. and while on TKD you do not want to eat as many fats as you would on CKD. mostly lean sources of protien. you have to choose between yummy fats on CKD and yummy carbs on TKD.

 

[Zagreus]

figure it out. you are eating carbs before and after workouts....right? ok now go through the numbers. and while on TKD you do not want to eat as many fats as you would on CKD. mostly lean sources of protien. you have to choose between yummy fats on CKD and yummy carbs on TKD.

Mon Day 1. 65%fat/35%protein---BMR-5%-> 30min cardio morning/ start your TKD workout(30 min prior to workout carbs)

Tues-Thurs Days 2-4. 60%fat/40%protein---BMR-5%-> 30min cardio morning/ start your TKD workout (30 min prior to workout carbs)

Friday Day 5. 30%fat/70%protein---BMR-> full body workout early morning AM (before any food)/no cardio

Sat Day 6. Day 1: 85% fat/15% protein---BMR ->1 hour cardio in the morning empty stomach/no workout.

Sun Day 7. 65%fat/35%protein---BMR-5%-> 30min cardio morning/

Only 35-65 grams of carbs prior to workouts. Based upon a 2200 calorie diet carbs are less than 9% of dietary intake on workout days only.

Most people who do a carb up before and after a workout consume too many carbs do not stay in ketosis.

Zag-

 

[OXANDRIN]

i am not a big fan of any type of ketogenic diet.

my true feeling is that you can't lose bodyfat without losing muscle so why not just cut your calories eat some good foods and lose some muscle with the fat. CKD is not for athlete. bodybuilder....maybe? but either way i see more people quit those diets and go back to carbs in very few weeks. 16 weeks calorie restricted diets are easier and give you better results in my opinion

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

Im kinda confused
I read MR Xs guide and he says post workout carbs are not important according to him (maybe i got it wrong)

if i have pre workout carbs, would they be metabolised into energy quick enough?

Ok let's say in the morning i do cardio on an empty stomach
i'd get some carbs after that at breakfast.
then eat low carb rest of the day.
do my afternoon workout (which is either weights or muay thai and our muay thai classes are very intense. i can burn between 500-1500 calories in a workout which can last from 2 to 3 hours depending on the day)

So after a weights workout i could allow myself say 30gms carbs but i think more after Muay thai (Say 50 or 60)

does that sound right or should i get some carbs before a workout too? at the moment i just have a protein shake or some eggs or some PB before training with an espresso and some prolabs cuts or rippedfuel