oh yeh, he asked if i juiced, so did the nurse. I told them I had been training for 10 years and worked hard to get where I was. Anyway I told the doc that seemed like I had this shit (played dumb, acted like I didnt know what it was) when I was about 14 and I thought it went away, however in the past year or so it keeps flaring up and is very painful. I told him that I couldnt perform at my job and that I needed to get something done. You gotta act pissed off about it and depressed, go in there and tell the doc that something is gotta go and that you are tired of it.I actually got into an arguement with my doc because he told me that he thought it would go away. I told that fucker that I didnt care what he "thought" and that I wasnt waiting around to see if it would, told him I might lose my job over this shit. LOL. BTW, I had an appointment with an endocronologist when I left his office. The endocronologist was very cool and once all my test results came back normal, he set me up and insurance is paying. bottom line bro, you gotta act like you are in pain if you want insurance to pay, otherwise it is considered cosmetic. fake the pain, I did and it worked.