Time to stock up - Deca Cycle Hlep

[bblazer]

Because of how things "work" for me, I need to start shopping a while before my next cycle so this may seem a bit early. But here goes.

I am thinking of using Deca for the first time. Here is what I envision my cycle to look like:

weeks
1-14 500 Text c/week
1-12 400 Deca week
8-15 50 mg anavar/day

Assuming that the above is OK, where I get caught up is with the PCT and how hard Deca shuts you down (at least that is what I am reading). Would my standard HCG/anastrozole regimen work, or is it time for some clomid.

Finally I have heard talk of needing some bromo. Is it OK to just have this on hand if needed, or should it be take during the cycle.

And for all who don't know me - stats:

Big fat (19% bf) power lifter
Lifting for lots of years
Old and bald

Goals:

I am stuck mid range in my weight class. It goes from 242 to 275, & then 275+. I am ~260 and can't lift what the 275 boys do. I need to put on mass, but bring with it the strength that will make me not look like a total failure.

As a last note, I am tested with a random T/E ratio urine test. I can get by with a 5:1 or even a 6:1 in some cases. I know if I was just going with the test/var I'd be OK, but I am unsure how long the Deca will affect these readings.

Thanks!
B-

 

[mattu3743]

throw some dbol in there in run it for the first 4 weeks, it will help you out alot when the deca kicks in

 

[tomw]

i run 250u hcg 2x week durring cycle anastrozol 3x week have kept bromo on hand but not ever taken it pct i used hcg and clomid worked great for me

 

[needtogetaas]

Because of how things "work" for me, I need to start shopping a while before my next cycle so this may seem a bit early. But here goes.

I am thinking of using Deca for the first time. Here is what I envision my cycle to look like:

weeks
1-14 500 Text c/week
1-12 400 Deca week
8-15 50 mg anavar/day

Assuming that the above is OK, where I get caught up is with the PCT and how hard Deca shuts you down (at least that is what I am reading). Would my standard HCG/anastrozole regimen work, or is it time for some clomid.

Finally I have heard talk of needing some bromo. Is it OK to just have this on hand if needed, or should it be take during the cycle.


B-

The problem for most people starts when they do not understand that

shut down of the hpta happens when there is a high level of

1. progesterone
2. estrogen
3. androgens
4. test



Most pct's do not address the problem of high progesterone and often people will run a pct and come out the other end with still haivng high levels of it. Hence still being shut down.

clomid work for this? nope
nolva work for this? fuck no makes it worse.
sustain alpha or recovery stack.. Meh getting better but still not 100%

Most poeple will get lucky using these because well. They will wait to weeks till pct and then do a 4 weeks pct and by that time its a good chance things are back to normal..

Not always the case though. It also does not address the problem of having high progesterone threw out the pct process which we all know causes problems . EI sub par pct,dick problems,and more.


What is the best way to do it then..

1 pree pct with a dht like proviron,winny so one.
add them into the end of a cycle and some times a week past to bring things back to normal.

2. running a dht threw out the cycle masteron and others. This will help keep a synergistic effect threw out. Making pct better.

3. The use od dostinex/bromo during the cycle or pree pct and or after the cycle.


4.Unleashed/postcycle/sustain alpha and a light ai for pct. this seems to be one of the best stack when coming off a nandro cycle. Synergistic taking care of most of the problems.

 

[bblazer]

What is the best way to do it then..

1 pree pct with a dht like proviron,winny so one.
add them into the end of a cycle and some times a week past to bring things back to normal.

2. running a dht threw out the cycle masteron and others. This will help keep a synergistic effect threw out. Making pct better.

3. The use od dostinex/bromo during the cycle or pree pct and or after the cycle.


4.Unleashed/postcycle/sustain alpha and a light ai for pct. this seems to be one of the best stack when coming off a nandro cycle. Synergistic taking care of most of the problems.

So given the choice, bromo throughout, or winny for the last 3 weeks given my cycle above?

Would I get the added benefit of having the winny get rid of any bloat the Deca may have left behind?

Thanks!

B-

 

[needtogetaas]

So given the choice, bromo throughout, or winny for the last 3 weeks given my cycle above?

Would I get the added benefit of having the winny get rid of any bloat the Deca may have left behind?

Thanks!

B-

Anavar is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) And will have some synergistic effects at the end of your cycle bro... Its great for pree pct and you will be fine just running a Testosterone Recovery Stack
for pct.

 

[centy]

I would absolutely keep the clomid in there.

 

[bblazer]

Anavar is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) And will have some synergistic effects at the end of your cycle bro... Its great for pree pct and you will be fine just running a Testosterone Recovery Stack
for pct.

I thought so, but then you started talking winny & bromo & I got all cornfuzed.

B-

 

[needtogetaas]

i would absolutely keep the clomid in there.

why?

 

[needtogetaas]

I thought so, but then you started talking winny & bromo & I got all cornfuzed.

B-

lol sorry about that

 

[centy]

why?

Because I think it's a much better idea to include it than to put all your chips in one pile. (Not intending to denigrate any sponsor's products.)

A moderate dosage is fine. No need to get silly.

 

[AAP]

throw some dbol in there in run it for the first 4 weeks, it will help you out alot when the deca kicks in

Bad idea considering his level of BF.

 

[bblazer]

Bad idea considering his level of BF.

I'm not fat, I'm big boned.

B-

 

[cuts82]

Considered halo big man?
im sure you have mentioned on here before thats why i ask

 

[needtogetaas]

Because I think it's a much better idea to include it than to put all your chips in one pile. (Not intending to denigrate any sponsor's products.)

A moderate dosage is fine. No need to get silly.

Well when many people have put there ships in the pile and got bad ass results I think its a safe bet..


How ever a low dose of clomid 25mg ed for the 4 weeks with it sure and hell ain't going to make the pct any worse. So its not a bad idea.

 

[bblazer]

Considered halo big man?
im sure you have mentioned on here before thats why i ask

Yes I have. And to be honest, if I didn't have a family I loved I would give it a shot. True or not, the talk about the aggressive sides scares the shit out of me as I already have a very short fuse.

Just ask NeedTo. He had to throw a few tacks of wheels at me a few weeks ago AND hit the "banned" button on me.

Jesus he hurled those things like a friggin discus - 5 at a time.

B-

 

[mattu3743]

Bad idea considering his level of BF.

whats the highest bf can you have to run it??

 

[bblazer]

whats the highest bf can you have to run it??

I'd like to know the answer to this too. I can't imagine the fat actually blocking the action of the drug.

B-

 

[mattu3743]

I'd like to know the answer to this too. I can't imagine the fat actually blocking the action of the drug.

B-

I can see if you're where going to inject it, but its an oral, how can fat play a factor in that, just curious