Time on = Time off??? WHY

[hardrock]

I cant even remeber the last time I was off,

Well over 2 years

but guess what, blood work is perfect, liver and kidney values are golden and bp not bad, despite a very stressful career

Hmmm???

2 years? Damn! I'm in my 17th week and don't wanna come off. Have you been on juice the whole time or GH between? Are you looking to go pro someday or? I'm just trying to get a feel where you wanna go with this? I don't know if I could ever go that long. Are you in fear of being on HRT for the rest of your life? Again, not a flame just interested. I wish I had the balls to go that long, and I guess I would if I knew it was safe.

 

[mtellin]

Ive been on fina/test for a year now, out of fina now so Im gonna bridge with test for 2-3 months and go right back on fina/test again probably for well over a year

 

[Silent Method]

I did a 14 weeker, took a month off, and did an 8 weeker.

The result? Although 6 weeks shorter and using much less gear, my recovery after the second cycle was much longer and slower than the first.

Also, I had a series of joint injuries durring the second cycle. My strength was through the roof, and I believe it had surpassed the adaptation of my connective tissue.



From now on, time off will equal time on at a minimum.

 

[The Shadow]

Ive been on fina/test for a year now, out of fina now so Im gonna bridge with test for 2-3 months and go right back on fina/test again probably for well over a year

...dont bother with the bridge

 

[mtellin]

...dont bother with the bridge

Do you say that meaning I should just keep running higher test since I've been on for awhile? Or are you against the idea of bridging?

 

[The Shadow]

Do you say that meaning I should just keep running higher test since I've been on for awhile? Or are you against the idea of bridging?

...the concept of a bridge is to use a compouns that would be benign enough to allow the hpta to begin to come around - like anavar....while still making some lean gains....

with test - there is no way the hpta will come around so there is no need to attempt....either come off or stay on

 

[sk*]

Do you say that meaning I should just keep running higher test since I've been on for awhile? Or are you against the idea of bridging?

Running a low amount of test is not a bridge as it will not help recover your hpta one bit.

-sk

 

[mtellin]

...the concept of a bridge is to use a compouns that would be benign enough to allow the hpta to begin to come around - like anavar....while still making some lean gains....

with test - there is no way the hpta will come around so there is no need to attempt....either come off or stay on

For the sake of argument...I've heard both ways on this, most people say no it will not recover, but for example in cycles for pennies DC talks about cruising at a lower level to regain, heres the quote:

"During the cruising period the 300-400mg of test will keep you from losing any muscle at all and the clomid and arimidex will get you as close (via 2 different routes) to homeostasis as possible. "

Thoughts on this?

 

[The Shadow]

For the sake of argument...I've heard both ways on this, most people say no it will not recover, but for example in cycles for pennies DC talks about cruising at a lower level to regain, heres the quote:

"During the cruising period the 300-400mg of test will keep you from losing any muscle at all and the clomid and arimidex will get you as close (via 2 different routes) to homeostasis as possible. "

Thoughts on this?

clomid will raise LH....dex will cut estrogen......but endo production of test will not begin while getting 300 exo per week.

 

[sk*]

For the sake of argument...I've heard both ways on this, most people say no it will not recover, but for example in cycles for pennies DC talks about cruising at a lower level to regain, heres the quote:

"During the cruising period the 300-400mg of test will keep you from losing any muscle at all and the clomid and arimidex will get you as close (via 2 different routes) to homeostasis as possible. "

Thoughts on this?

You are quotting dc, he never claims that your hpta will go back to normal but he does the cruising period in hopes of being able to recover in the future ...

-sk