Time on equals time off?

[louisiana]

Do this rule still apply? I will start my next cycle in January and this make 3 months of being off a cycle. My last cycle was only 10 weeks long. Primo and proviron.

 

[stevesmi]

get blood work done.. if you are recovered and your LH is strong and your testosterone is back to baseline then go for it.

if not then you should probably run a PCT to help get your HPTA humming again

 

[louisiana]

What do u suggest for a good pct?

 

[stevesmi]

you should of already run your pct directly after cycle.

see my sig for the pct i like

 

[C.K.]

That's why I only run 4 week cycles now

 

[louisiana]

That's why I only run 4 week cycles now

Why do u run 4 week cycles? How do u benefit from running a short cycle? What gear do you run for this short time?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^you can try a dbol/proviron cycle

or just pick up some beastdrol. i have a bottle in my pantry

 

[C.K.]

Why do u run 4 week cycles? How do u benefit from running a short cycle? What gear do you run for this short time?

Use short esters and orals, get in and get out no point in running a 4 month cycle of longer esters like enanthate when you can achieve the same results in 4 weeks

Currently running test prop, mast prop, beast & katanadrol

 

[stevesmi]

like CK said short cycles are easier to recover from. longer cycles mean more PCT time. about the only thing about orals that can be construed as a negative is the sides tend to be more pronounced and they are hard on the liver.

but injectables ran at high dosages can have just as bad if not worse sides.

 

[louisiana]

Well what about primo? I know that it's a safer steroid but u need to run it longer for good results. I heard that anything under 8 week is a waist. I also read that it is easier to recover from. I only want to run primo and proviron from now on.

 

[louisiana]

^^^you can try a dbol/proviron cycle

or just pick up some beastdrol. i have a bottle in my pantry

I doubt I ever run dbol. I'm not trying to get any bigger. I want to add a little muscle while slimming down.

 

[ALIN]

get blood work done.. if you are recovered and your LH is strong and your testosterone is back to baseline then go for it.

if not then you should probably run a PCT to help get your HPTA humming again

Blood work is a must and a great way to gauge things. I would still give it the same theory TIME ON=TIME OFF
though.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Use short esters and orals, get in and get out no point in running a 4 month cycle of longer esters like enanthate when you can achieve the same results in 4 weeks

Currently running test prop, mast prop, beast & katanadrol

keep us posted on this cycle bro, you running beast at 40mg ed?

 

[Judo Tom]

I doubt I ever run dbol. I'm not trying to get any bigger. I want to add a little muscle while slimming down.

what are you stats?

for me the rule is time on + pct = absolute minimum time off

you need to stabize for some time not just a few weeks and maintain those gains naturally then wait and start another cycle

for the 10 weekers or i think 2 cycles a year is pushing it and shouldnt be done every year

i like short cycles but i dont like hitting 3 a year of them by any means.

I also think now compared w/ oh 10+ years ago that PCT has come so far that I prefer longer cycles now.. i just INVEST heavy in pct for 6 weeks and then 'bridge' right away w/ some of the cool supps out there..

that is what works for me and keeps me healthy and loving life.. you gotta find out what works for you

 

[Arabian]

what are you stats?

for me the rule is time on + pct = absolute minimum time off

you need to stabize for some time not just a few weeks and maintain those gains naturally then wait and start another cycle

for the 10 weekers or i think 2 cycles a year is pushing it and shouldnt be done every year

i like short cycles but i dont like hitting 3 a year of them by any means.

I also think now compared w/ oh 10+ years ago that PCT has come so far that I prefer longer cycles now.. i just INVEST heavy in pct for 6 weeks and then 'bridge' right away w/ some of the cool supps out there..

that is what works for me and keeps me healthy and loving life.. you gotta find out what works for you

^^^ Absolutely Tom, great advice. Steve has been doing this and has had fantastic results out of this Bridging with supplements. He is natty now and came off back in May I believe and has not lost any noticeable muscle mass because he has mastered the PCT and bridge part of cycling. Check Steve's signature out for his PCT and bridging technique after cycling.

 

[stevesmi]

primo and proviron are fine louisiana. run the primo 10 weeks. i don't agree that running it less than that is a waste, the reason people think that is that it doesn't add water weight so people assume its not doing anything.. i had results from primo after 2 weeks. not crazy results but i could look in the mirror and see a difference in definition.

 

[C.K.]

keep us posted on this cycle bro, you running beast at 40mg ed?

Yes 75 mgs mast & test prop 40 mgs beast & 250 mgs katanadrol EVERYDAY no sides at all week 1 I may go as high as 50 mgs for the last 2 weeks I somehow feel this is gonna be my best cycle ever

I am looking forward to doing a short cycle with mhn again that was by far my favorite oral

 

[C.K.]

- no waiting 3 weeks for enathates to build up,

6 weeks for me buddy my last primo and mast enanthate cycle I didn't notice either of them till mid week 6

 

[louisiana]

Did anyone run a primo ace cycle before?? How fast did it kick in and do u get the same results?