Thoughts on cycle....

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Ok guys this is going to be my second attempt to grow.My First one ended 4 months ago and it was just deca/primo.I gained 23 pounds but to tell you the truth i didn't see much.I did the usual rookie mistakes,didn't eat and rest a lot.Last three months i was dieting natural and i went form 16% to 10%bf with a loss of some muscle.Anyway i am more educated now and ready to fullfill my goals.I have access to almost anything.I haven't decided yet if i should use test in my cycle.The one and only thing that is holding me from using test is acne.i had it in my teens and i surely don't want it back.I really wanted to try equipose but it is extremely expensive here in Greece and hard to find.So i will stick to deca as for anabolic.So deca at 400mg/week for ten weeks will be there.

Now from there i was thinking of two choices.One is doing sustanon at 500mg for eight weeks (definately with arimidex at 0.5mg eod) and the other one is adding winny for the last 6 weeks at 50mg/day.Also i could leave the deca out and just use sustanon and winny.Please don't tell me to use the three of them as i can't afford that.My goals from this cycle are gaining some solid pounds (not interested on being a freak) with little water retention and minimal fat gain.So i am open to any advice...

Despite my final choice i know that these drugs take a lot of time to kick in.So i was thinking of adding creatine for the first 5 weeks.What do you think of that? I could add dbol but i know that acne with dbol is pretty bad.

Diet:as clean as possible at the range of 4000kcal.
Additional drugs: Nolva on hand,clomid
Sup:creatine ,glutamine,multivitamins,ALA,milk thistle
Cardio: 3 times a week at 30minutes per session

5'.10 180lbs 10%bf

 

[GLECON]

BUMP Come on guys i need some help here...

 

[Bulldog_10]

Put your cycles in a list or something, not in the middle of a paragraph. It's hard to figure out what the 2 choices are. Either that or I'm just lazy

 

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Ok guys this is going to be my second attempt to grow.My First one ended 4 months ago and it was just deca/primo.I gained 23 pounds but to tell you the truth i didn't see much.I did the usual rookie mistakes,didn't eat and rest a lot.Last three months i was dieting natural and i went form 16% to 10%bf with a loss of some muscle.Anyway i am more educated now and ready to fullfill my goals.I have access to almost anything.I haven't decided yet if i should use test in my cycle.The one and only thing that is holding me from using test is acne.i had it in my teens and i surely don't want it back.I really wanted to try equipose but it is extremely expensive here in Greece and hard to find.So i will stick to deca as for anabolic.So deca at 400mg/week for ten weeks will be there.

Now from there i was thinking of two choices.One is doing sustanon at 500mg for eight weeks (definately with arimidex at 0.5mg eod) and the other one is adding winny for the last 6 weeks at 50mg/day.Also i could leave the deca out and just use sustanon and winny.Please don't tell me to use the three of them as i can't afford that.My goals from this cycle are gaining some solid pounds (not interested on being a freak) with little water retention and minimal fat gain.So i am open to any advice...

Despite my final choice i know that these drugs take a lot of time to kick in.So i was thinking of adding creatine for the first 5 weeks.What do you think of that? I could add dbol but i know that acne with dbol is pretty bad.

Diet:as clean as possible at the range of 4000kcal.
Additional drugs: Nolva on hand,clomid
Sup:creatine ,glutamine,multivitamins,ALA,milk thistle
Cardio: 3 times a week at 30minutes per session

5'.10 180lbs 10%bf

Go with the sust at 500mg/wk for 10weeks and winny at 50mg/day for weeks 5-10. You wont have to worry about water weight as long as u are taking the arimidex. Split your sust shots to 2 times a week as to take advantage of what little prop. it contains. Also I would save the creatine for post cycle to help keep some of your gains.