Thoughts about 1st cycle

[EatLiftSleepRepeat]

Hey guys...relatively new to the site but have been crusin the site for a while. Stats 25 years old 280 pounds. Probably 30% bodyfat( guestimate) been lifting for about 5 years on and off and this year have gotten really serious about it. So serious that I am thinking about my first cycle of katanadrol. I'm tryin to cut pretty hard I'll be at the gym 4-5 days/week and about 1800 cals/day. I've researched a good amount but have a couple questions...is this a good starter and what can I realistically expect? I basically just want to shed fat quicker while gaining a relatively high amount of strength.

 

[-SD-]

Lets make it real simple for you: dont touch any steroids until youre at 15% BF

 

[EatLiftSleepRepeat]

Why do you say that. I saw a thread on here where the guy had over 15% and used katanadrol and it looks like it's doing good for him

 

[-SD-]

Steroids are not a weight loss drug, they do the opposite

 

[Tectime]

When your bf is to high most steroids will convert to estrogen easier. Raising your estrogen levels while not allowing the anabolic androgen effects to take place as well as the could. Katanadrol is not one that coverts to estrogen at all so it is safer to use when fat is too high. Although if you can lower bf some first katana will cut you up quick.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Lower bodyfat (under 15% at least) and a better cycle - you will need both.

 

[EatLiftSleepRepeat]

Thanks for the replies guys. I understand what you guys are saying. My question is...Is it a bad idea that wouldnt work at all or something I can try and possibly benefit. Basically, if I do decide to be hardheaded and try it will I be disappointed. Thanks again guys

 

[Txwarnerve]

Hey man I know what your thinking but ill put it this way. Learn how to eat really good and train right so you can get down to a proper weight I'm not gonna throw around bf% or a certain weight but trust me lose as much weight as possible I mean literally don't stop Til you feel like you look great! And then Jump on some gear then you'll know how to train and eat to gain muscle so you'll achieve a lot and you'll look amazing. Trust me don't let the steroid be a crutch you can achieve a lot with a great diet and intense smart training. Pm me for any help.

 

[EatLiftSleepRepeat]

My goals are to gain strength before I lose weight rapidly to be honest. Something about being stronger makes me feel better then being ripped I think lol then again...I've never been ripped up

 

[dylangemelli]

At that body fat you are showing these traits... lack of diet and training... lack of consistency... chances are very poor health... your are probable in having high cholesterol and bp... you are also at an extremely high rate of estrogen conversion... you have no business whatsoever in going near steroids until you develop better health and consistency... You can easily drop a lot of that body fat by just hitting cardio and getting your diet under control... once you drop more, you can start with sarms and work your way into a steroid cycle but if you have any concern about your health and actually making gains and doing things right, then you will take all the necessary steps to get you there...

 

[jb2012ny]

Hey bro listen too these guys. I was around 27-28% bf ,5-7",195lbs for a long time. I found this site and wanted to go on a cycle... When i posted a pic they told me same thing, drop the bf. so i listened and dropped 5 1/2" on my waist. Went down too about 15-16%. Then did a cycle. Weight melted off. Its all about diet and cardio speeds up the process. Just figure out your maintance in calories and go 500 below that. You will loose a pound a week at least...just learn about macros. I cycled with high bf and you will appreciate it trust me if you lower it. I have no cholesterol or blood pressure issues any more. Im slowly reaching my old weight but minus the gut i had. I cant thank these guys enough in this site for all the info. Especially dylan. He helped me a lot. You found this site so your on the right path ....

 

[fizzisnumerouno]

Thanks for the replies guys. I understand what you guys are saying. My question is...Is it a bad idea that wouldnt work at all or something I can try and possibly benefit. Basically, if I do decide to be hardheaded and try it will I be disappointed. Thanks again guys

PM me for a weight loss and cardio plan.

 

[EatLiftSleepRepeat]

Appreciate the answers guys. Guess ill wait it out. I must be one of those rare gems though because I just got blood tests back about a month ago and every single number was in range lol. Healthy as can be...just a little extra weight on my body....kinda weird

 

[dylangemelli]

Appreciate the answers guys. Guess ill wait it out. I must be one of those rare gems though because I just got blood tests back about a month ago and every single number was in range lol. Healthy as can be...just a little extra weight on my body....kinda weird

you are very lucky then but that still does not mean you are in any condition for steroid use... Work very hard and get yourself in the proper condition... You can do it with a lot of hard work... You just need to fix things in your lifestyle and if getting to the proper weight is a priority to you, which it should be of the highest, you can make it happen...

 

[EatLiftSleepRepeat]

you are very lucky then but that still does not mean you are in any condition for steroid use... Work very hard and get yourself in the proper condition... You can do it with a lot of hard work... You just need to fix things in your lifestyle and if getting to the proper weight is a priority to you, which it should be of the highest, you can make it happen...

Thanks man I appreciate it. I just wanted more strength at first. I can't stand being a weak pussy in the gym so my idea was to get stronger so that I could 12-14 rep out heavier weight lol. Thanks for the advice I'll wait til 15%bf

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks man I appreciate it. I just wanted more strength at first. I can't stand being a weak pussy in the gym so my idea was to get stronger so that I could 12-14 rep out heavier weight lol. Thanks for the advice I'll wait til 15%bf

that will all come bro... you have to take it one step at a time... once you get yourself in better physical condition then you can shift your focus to more strength... its a marathon, not a sprint... if you get your body fat down more, you can start running sarms and can pick up some strength while dropping weight... they will be exactly what you need...