Can't touch him as far as size. Can't imagine his drug regimine. Total package though - NO WAY! The sport has gotten so much about size that symmetry and proportion have fallen to the wayside. No symmetry whatsoever IMO. SA much as I hate Flex Wheeler, I can't believe that he lost to Ronnie on what was blamed as being glutes and hams that were not as striated. Flex had the package. Dennis Wolf has it to, just needs a bit more proportion perhaps. Guys go on and on about Ronnie's size and how great he is (or was). And I always ask the same question. If you had to choose one body you could have and the day came you were walkin down the beach, who would you rather look like? Ronnie or Jay, or Flex or Sean Ray. C'mon guys, if you can't pull of a vacuum pose, you don't belong in the top ten. Realistically, I doubt there are even ten Olympia competitors today who can hit the pose and make it a money shot.