This may be a crazy question but...

[Steve The Bluesman]

Has anyone heard of giving winny to a cat?

Hear me out...

My 16 year old cat was diagnosed with Chronic Renal Failure. While researching info on the net, I came across two sites that reccomend Winny. Aside from saying be careful of liver issues, it goes into no further detail.

I want to try to save the cat. She was my mother's before she died, was a great comfort to my mom before she passed away, and I want to do right by this cat.

I am thinking grind a 5mg winny pill into a powder, and toss about 1/4 of it in the cat's food.

If anyone has any thoughts or ideas, let me know.

Thanks,


Bluesman

 

[Makavelli]

Has anyone heard of giving winny to a cat?

Hear me out...

My 16 year old cat was diagnosed with Chronic Renal Failure. While researching info on the net, I came across two sites that reccomend Winny. Aside from saying be careful of liver issues, it goes into no further detail.

I want to try to save the cat. She was my mother's before she died, was a great comfort to my mom before she passed away, and I want to do right by this cat.

I am thinking grind a 5mg winny pill into a powder, and toss about 1/4 of it in the cat's food.

If anyone has any thoughts or ideas, let me know.

Thanks,


Bluesman

Well it is made for animals. It can't hurt to try.

 

[ricorico]

itll turn him into a tiger! lol

 

[Mr.X]

Has anyone heard of giving winny to a cat?

Hear me out...

My 16 year old cat was diagnosed with Chronic Renal Failure. While researching info on the net, I came across two sites that reccomend Winny. Aside from saying be careful of liver issues, it goes into no further detail.

I want to try to save the cat. She was my mother's before she died, was a great comfort to my mom before she passed away, and I want to do right by this cat.

I am thinking grind a 5mg winny pill into a powder, and toss about 1/4 of it in the cat's food.

If anyone has any thoughts or ideas, let me know.

Thanks,


Bluesman

have you thought of talking to a vet about this? EF is not the type of place people would know about the best thing for your Cat.

Mr.X

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

have you thought of talking to a vet about this? EF is not the type of place people would know about the best thing for your Cat.

Mr.X

I did - just came back from the vet, actually - I have been taught to give sub-q injections at home to a 9 lbs cat with a 18g needle! The damn thing is a cannon...

Anyway, I mentioned winstrol, she knew what I was talking about, but said that they didn't use it becuase steriods in general lower the cat's immune system, as well as having an effect on the liver.

The plan is to give 150ml of NaCL daily, then retest to see what her kidney values are. At that point, they may reccomend prednisone...but I was wondering if there are any vets or folks with sick cats who tried winny (or even dbol.)

I hope she lives.

Thanks,


Bluesman

 

[LVTitan]

I did - just came back from the vet, actually - I have been taught to give sub-q injections at home to a 9 lbs cat with a 18g needle! The damn thing is a cannon...

fuck that must have been rough !!!

The plan is to give 150ml of NaCL daily, then retest to see what her kidney values are. At that point, they may reccomend prednisone...but I was wondering if there are any vets or folks with sick cats who tried winny (or even dbol.)

I hope she lives.

Thanks,


Bluesman

NaCl is just salt bro, what are you gonna do, just give here some salt water to drink ?

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Yup, sodium cloride - allows fluids to be absorbed into the cells and clear out some of the toxins that are not being flushed by the kidneys...I do this every day now, but the cat actually takes the 18g pretty well...A lot better that the pussies on here whining about using a 21g

The idea for salt water to drink is not far off - it is just like gatroade, it replces lost electrolytes. (funny how cats/dogs systems are so similar to ours.)

I will stop now that we are going way off topic, but for what its worth, Fatty seems to be responding in now the 3rd day of treatment...


Bluesman

 

[beefcake28]

Has anyone heard of giving winny to a cat?

Hear me out...

My 16 year old cat was diagnosed with Chronic Renal Failure. While researching info on the net, I came across two sites that reccomend Winny. Aside from saying be careful of liver issues, it goes into no further detail.

I want to try to save the cat. She was my mother's before she died, was a great comfort to my mom before she passed away, and I want to do right by this cat.

I am thinking grind a 5mg winny pill into a powder, and toss about 1/4 of it in the cat's food.

If anyone has any thoughts or ideas, let me know.

Thanks,


Bluesman

Here is what I found... I would listen to your Vet., as it sounds like Winny can be pretty toxic to cats... Use it as a last resort (for your cat).

Hope this helps, let me know if you need anymore info about it...


1: J Am Vet Med Assoc. 2000 Sep 1;217(5):681-4. Related Articles, Links

Hepatotoxicity of stanozolol in cats.

Harkin KR, Cowan LA, Andrews GA, Basaraba RJ, Fischer JR, DeBowes LJ, Roush JK, Guglielmino ML, Kirk CA.

Department of Clinical Sciences, Kansas State University, Manhattan 66506-5606, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To determine hepatotoxicity of stanozolol in cats and to identify clinicopathologic and histopathologic abnormalities in cats with stanozolol-induced hepatotoxicosis. DESIGN: Clinical trial and case series. ANIMALS: 12 healthy cats, 6 cats with chronic renal failure, and 3 cats with gingivitis and stomatitis. PROCEDURES: Healthy cats and cats with renal failure were treated with stanozolol (25 mg, i.m., on the first day, then 2 mg, p.o., q 12 h) for 4 weeks. Cats with gingivitis were treated with stanozolol at a dosage of 1 mg, p.o., every 24 hours. RESULTS: Most healthy cats and cats with renal failure developed marked inappetence, groomed less, and were less active within 7 to 10 days after initiation of stanozolol administration. Serum alanine transaminase (ALT) activity was significantly increased in 14 of 18 cats after stanozolol administration, but serum alkaline phosphatase activity was mildly increased in only 3. Four cats with serum ALT activity > 1,000 U/L after only 2 weeks of stanozolol administration had coagulopathies; administration of vitamin K resolved the coagulopathy in 3 of the 4 within 48 hours. All 18 cats survived, and hepatic enzyme activities were normal in all cats tested more than 4 weeks after stanozolol administration was discontinued. Two of the 3 cats with gingivitis developed evidence of severe hepatic failure 2 to 3 months after initiation of stanozolol treatment; both cats developed coagulopathies. Histologic evaluation of hepatic biopsy specimens from 5 cats revealed diffuse hepatic lipidosis and cholestasis without evidence of hepatocellular necrosis. CONCLUSIONS AND CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Results suggest that stanozolol is hepatotoxic in cats.

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 10976299 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[beefcake28]

Here is a good vetrinary website that discusses Chronic Renal Failure in cats in detail.... Hope this helps.

http://www.felinecrf.com/

 

[satchboogie]

my pussy enjoys a stack of 200mg deca/50mg anadrol.
run that for 6 weeks, then at week 7 drop the bombs and up the deca to 400mg.

if he experiences deca dick and no longer wants go bang street cats, cabaser at .5mg e4d works well for my cat... although most will say a cat only needs .25mg e4d.

for pct its quite simple.
high cals (get the kibblez with meat), stacked with creatine 3g pre breakfast, and pre dinner.. make sure to add the creatine to milk or he wont drink it.

if you really wanna go all out, slam in 5g glutamine with the creatine..

 

[beefcake28]

my pussy enjoys a stack of 200mg deca/50mg anadrol.
run that for 6 weeks, then at week 7 drop the bombs and up the deca to 400mg.

if he experiences deca dick and no longer wants go bang street cats, cabaser at .5mg e4d works well for my cat... although most will say a cat only needs .25mg e4d.

for pct its quite simple.
high cals (get the kibblez with meat), stacked with creatine 3g pre breakfast, and pre dinner.. make sure to add the creatine to milk or he wont drink it.

if you really wanna go all out, slam in 5g glutamine with the creatine..

LMAO!! You must have the baddest pussy on the planet, bro....

 

[The Terminator]

I DONT think it is a good idea to give a cat with kidney problems something ELSE to be metabolized (atleast in part) by the kidneys...
I see it doing MORE HARM than good...
(though its purely speculation on my part, as I am no cat expert by any means...)

 

[satchboogie]

LMAO!! You must have the baddest pussy on the planet, bro....

you gotta treat the pussy nicely or else no pussy!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[krishna]

How does gear help kidney's?

 

[beefcake28]

you gotta treat the pussy nicely or else no pussy!!!!!!!!!!!

Your pussy gets better treatment than I do... I never thought I'd be jealous of a pussy... Damn...

 

[beefcake28]

How does gear help kidney's?

It doesn't.... I already posted about the hepatotoxicity of it in felines. It doesn't help the kidneys in humans either, which is why so many precautions are necessary when choosing a cycle.

 

[satchboogie]

Your pussy gets better treatment than I do... I never thought I'd be jealous of a pussy... Damn...

yes my pussy gets preferential treatment.
sometimes, we just sit and home and play all day.

its great..

just about the only thing i can play with all day and not get bored...

 

[needsize]

funny, most people on here dont know jack about giving steroids to humans, never mind animals