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MattTheSkywalker said:
1400cc brain. That and the reality that we are the only species that has actually improved our situation on the planet in any meaningful way. The smartest animal is much much stupider than the dumbest of humans.



If you really believed this bullshit, you would be living off the land, not posting on a computer. So get off the soapbox.



This doesn't even mean anything. It's pure gibberish.

I think I am going to go pay a homeless guy to rough up some kittens.


How have we improved our situation? By overpopulating the earth and using up all its resources? What good is it going to do us to reproduce exponentially if we're just going to run out of resources and cause our own demise? And no we're not the only animal that has improved our situation. There is something called evolution which is evident in many different species. And I would say that we are unique in our intelligence, but then comes along someone like you who would rather use it to insult people with different opinions than to use it wisely.
 
In fact, if we look at biological relationships among species and environments, mankind's relationship with the earth highly resembles a parasitic one.
 
krishna said:
How have we improved our situation?

here are some hints: You live in a house? You don't kill your food do you?

By overpopulating the earth and using up all its resources?

LOL, most reports indicate that the earth could sustain 35 BILLION people. There is no such thing as overpopulating; Nature controls appropriate levels of population. Since the standard of living is getting better for just about everyone, I'm not sure where you're coming from.

What good is it going to do us to reproduce exponentially if we're just going to run out of resources and cause our own demise?

Again, no proof of this. Yawn. Hyperbole. Drama. But above all, nonsense.


And no we're not the only animal that has improved our situation. There is something called evolution which is evident in many different species.

That's just plain foolish. Do animals decide to evolve? Fuck no, neither do we. That happens to a one celled organism or a person. Evolution is passive. People alone among living things take an ACTIVE role in improving the world for themselves.

And I would say that we are unique in our intelligence, but then comes along someone like you who would rather use it to insult people with different opinions than to use it wisely.

Bor, no insults, don't take this personally...i sure don't.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
LOL, most reports indicate that the earth could sustain 35 BILLION people.

Could it sustain 35 billion in a Western middle-class standard of living, with all the energy that such a lifestyle demands?

And even if it's possible, is it desirable?
 
Mr. dB said:
Could it sustain 35 billion in a Western middle-class standard of living, with all the energy that such a lifestyle demands?

And even if it's possible, is it desirable?
You´re right. That would be much too full for comfort. That´s why we have to keep killing brown people. To keep populations in check and nature in balance.

Just like when me and my grandpa put on our Barbour and go hunt deer and hare.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
here are some hints: You live in a house? You don't kill your food do you?



LOL, most reports indicate that the earth could sustain 35 BILLION people. There is no such thing as overpopulating; Nature controls appropriate levels of population. Since the standard of living is getting better for just about everyone, I'm not sure where you're coming from.



Again, no proof of this. Yawn. Hyperbole. Drama. But above all, nonsense.






That's just plain foolish. Do animals decide to evolve? Fuck no, neither do we. That happens to a one celled organism or a person. Evolution is passive. People alone among living things take an ACTIVE role in improving the world for themselves.



Bor, no insults, don't take this personally...i sure don't.

Ya I live in a house and I don't kill my food, but some people do kill their food and like doing so; it makes life better for them. Your percieved betterness isn't the same as everyone else's. How well off are the millions of starving people in Africa? And mankind's exponential growth is a known biological FACT! There's no way the earth can sustain humanity if we continue to reproduce like this. Why do you think they have population control and reproduction restrictions in China? How well off is life for the millions of poor people in Asia? You say people are the only ones that improve the world for themselves? Maybe in the sense you're speaking of, but at what cost? You sound as if you're proud of the fact that mankind acts like a virus, killing off everything that gets in its way. As with all parasites, once the host is destroyed, the parasite will no longer be able to survive. Same goes with the earth and humans. So when that happens, what's was the point in "making life better for ourselves"? All it's going to do is destroy us. Animals have an innate understanding of nature, and become apart of the natural ecosystem instead of destroying it like humans do. Go head and yawn, sigh, call it boring and jibberish, or whatever it is you do when you don't have a decent response to something. I really don't care.
 
krishna said:
And mankind's exponential growth is a known biological FACT!


Mathematically speaking, given umpteen different optimal parameters, all other things remaining equal, sure.

However, the fact that we have yet to see any exponential growth says something...



:cow:
 
samoth said:
Mathematically speaking, given umpteen different optimal parameters, all other things remaining equal, sure.

However, the fact that we have yet to see any exponential growth says something...



:cow:


UUUmmmm.....??? If we hadn't already seen exponential growth from the past until now, it wouldn't be a fact. In other words, what you just said is absolutely false!
 
krishna said:
Ya I live in a house and I don't kill my food, but some people do kill their food and like doing so; it makes life better for them.

Wrong. Everyone who has a CHOICE between buying food at the supermarket and killing it, will buy it. Hunting is a sport now, not a need. Those who kill their food, need to do so to live.

Your percieved betterness isn't the same as everyone else's. How well off are the millions of starving people in Africa?

Better off than they were 100 or 1000 years ago.


And mankind's exponential growth is a known biological FACT! There's no way the earth can sustain humanity if we continue to reproduce like this.

Really? Where?

Population growth in the US is slowing. Same is first - world Europe. Population grows (by definition) where it can be accommodated. In the last 50 years, the fastest growing populating was Saudi Arabia, because they had lots of money and capacity for growth. Now they are slowing down; the capacity is filled. Therefore, exponential growth will never ever ever happen without pre existing capacity - growth MUST by definiton follow capacity. It cannot create the capacity.


Why do you think they have population control and reproduction restrictions in China?

I have employees in China. I have some familairty with it. So I have to ask:
What does Earth's natural capacity have to do with Chinese lawmaking? Do you really seriously believe that China enacted those laws to protect EARTH's resources? hahahahahahahahahaah China is the biggest polluter on the planet.

Those laws were a means of the Chinese Communist party keeping power and speak nothing of Earth's capacity. You also further assume that Chinese collectivism is the optimal way to support a population. Again, WRONG.

FYI in the agricultural areas of China, the one child policy was never enforced.

How well off is life for the millions of poor people in Asia?

Again, better than it was 100 years ago. The proof that it is better is very simple: their population is INCREASING. if it were so horrible, population would decrease, because they would die without reproducing. The very existence of an increase in population disproves your idea, dreg.

You say people are the only ones that improve the world for themselves? Maybe in the sense you're speaking of, but at what cost?

Cost? Stuff just keeps getting better.


You sound as if you're proud of the fact that mankind acts like a virus, killing off everything that gets in its way. As with all parasites, once the host is destroyed, the parasite will no longer be able to survive. Same goes with the earth and humans. So when that happens, what's was the point in "making life better for ourselves"? All it's going to do is destroy us.

You've thus far offered zero proof that this is happening. The examples you have attempted to use to support your position are easily discredited.

Animals have an innate understanding of nature, and become apart of the natural ecosystem instead of destroying it like humans do. Go head and yawn, sigh, call it boring and jibberish, or whatever it is you do when you don't have a decent response to something. I really don't care.

If they understand it so well, why do the fish keep biting the hook?
 
Matty

have you ever had Duck Liver?
 
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