This is a fucked up disturbing video. If you still shop at J.Crew after this...

[exotic_island_girl]

Oh My Gawd..... I can't even watch it.

I was crying while trying to watch the video and couldn't believe on what I am seeing.



I hope those people and the Jcrew company burn in Shell.

Glad that I dont shop at Jcrew!

 

[HiDnGoD]

do bugs count?

Nope. They don't have fingers to count with.

 

[Gymgurl]

Shall we debate hunting now??

 

[gjohnson5]

Shall we debate hunting now??

yeah , alot more blood in deer , this is for sure.

if I had a dollar for all the times I gutted a fish when it was still looking and snapping at me...
The kewlest thing to gut a fish fast enough, cut his heart out, and it can still beat while in your hand, lol

 

[Mr. dB]

yeah , alot more blood in deer , this is for sure.

if I had a dollar for all the times I gutted a fish when it was still looking and snapping at me...
The kewlest thing to gut a fish fast enough, cut his heart out, and it can still beat while in your hand, lol

That's probably not any worse than how they would have died in the wild, at the hands of a predator fish or squid.

 

[gjohnson5]

That's probably not any worse than how they would have died in the wild, at the hands of a predator fish or squid.

Ooh yeah , I'd have a few hundred dollars every time an eel was eating my catch alive before I pulled it up and he left a head and nothing else.

Ooh yeah , It's wierd how nature adapts. There are fish that follow fishing boats because they've "learned" they can get a free meal by doing so. I've lost plenty just from those types of predators following the boat.

 

[samoth]

I never understood how these threads get so long, or how some people can hold such close-minded and bigoted opinions. Just like religious threads.

Morals -- what is "right" -- is dictated by the society. There does not exist any universal moral "right" or "wrong". People argue this stuff like it's a unique or special issue, eg. the topic of this thread, but in reality it's a quite broad category in philosophy that's been argued for millenia.

The dedicated protester is just as "right" as the fur-wearing meat eater.

HTH

 

[samoth]

I have a cat. He's my buddy. we've through a lot together, but he's getting old. He's got very bad arthritis, & I'm suspecting he has cancer. I've put 2 other cats down in the past 2 years (well, the vet did).
But this guy is different. I want to do it myself because it just seems right. & I know this will sound heartless, but the vet charges $250.00 to do it & I can't get the body back to bury.
I would do it myself if I could do it as painlessly as the vet. I can't do that, so I'll have to take him to the vet. It would mean a lot to us to have him buried at the foot of the garden.

Not really specifically directed at you, but where the hell did this idea of killing people/things because they are suffering come from? OMG, it's suffering, let's KILL IT! Ummm, what? Great idea, let's obfuscate things even more by introducing an ill-defined notion of x amount of suffering = kill it. I do think that, at extreme instances, it can be the credited response, but c'mon, that ain't how society thinks nowadays. People should drop the oxycotin and sodium pentobarbital and learn that that old proverb of life=suffering might have been on to something.

 

[Mr. dB]

Not really specifically directed at you, but where the hell did this idea of killing people/things because they are suffering come from?

I think it comes from EMPATHY...

 

[samoth]

I think it comes from EMPATHY...

Where is the sufferance line drawn that suffering = death? Is it different for animals than humans? Should it be reqired? What kind of suffering = suffering that falls under the empathetic notion that should lead to death, ie. do we differentiate physical suffering from mental suffering? Who sets and defines this amount of suffering?


I don't disagree with the idea; moreso the implementation and laws governing the idea. And I haven't even touched the religios side that exists -- and differs -- from one society to the next.