I am new to the board but I have been on others for a long time. Judging from what I have read so far I would say your def. right and some ppl need to do a little more reading. I am no expert but I at least try and research or figure something out myself before I would post a thread about it.(although I did not word something properly once and someone asked me to do a search, it was about weed and bodybuilding...I didnt mean about smoking before/after you lift, my friend smoked about once a day and kept asking me how it was affecting his diet and strength gains and all I could find was that prolonged use might lower test levels so I put a post up on here seeing if anyone else had some articles.) I dont know, so far I have learned some things off the board and it seems to be alright but I have seen things go downhill and you really do have to do something before it gets too far so I am glad that a veteran(ultragainz and others) said something so hopefully the board can continue to be very informational or get better(back to how it was..but i woudnt know, i am a "newbie").