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Third cycle dosage advices?
- Thread starter oxezo
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Your dosages look a little high to me. There is no need to over do it. Let the diet and training do the work. Steroids are just the icing on the cake. Too high of dosages are only going to cause side effects. A test dosage higher then 500mg/week is really going to start aromatizing into estrogen. Even with an AI.
This is what I recommend for dosages:
test 1-12 500mg
deca 1-11 300-400mg
dbol 1-4 25mg/d
There are no support supplements in your cycle. Running your steroid cycle as it is currently laid out is asking for side effects like gyno and water retention.
1. You need to add an AI to your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. You need to add an anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.
3. Dbol is a liver toxic oral steroid so it's a very good idea to use a good liver aid supplement like N2guard from n2bm.com when running it.
This is what I recommend for dosages:
test 1-12 500mg
deca 1-11 300-400mg
dbol 1-4 25mg/d
There are no support supplements in your cycle. Running your steroid cycle as it is currently laid out is asking for side effects like gyno and water retention.
1. You need to add an AI to your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. You need to add an anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.
3. Dbol is a liver toxic oral steroid so it's a very good idea to use a good liver aid supplement like N2guard from n2bm.com when running it.
DTA707
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Agreed
First of all, run Dbol at full dosage right away - there is not much point in using just 25 mgs per day - this dosage will barely give you any effects. 40-50 mgs are the sweetspot, where you get the best ratio of benefits to side effects. Also, I have not seen you mention any ancillaries. With Dbol you need to use a proper liver supporting supplement, such as n2guard, which has over 40 ingredients for the liver, so it is definitely the most potent liver supporting supplement on the market.
Then you also need to use an AI from the first day of the cycle. Aromasin at 10 mgs EOD would be the best choice. Finally, deca will increase prolactin levels, so you need to include cabergoline into the cycle, also from the first day of the cycle. 0.25 mgs EOD is a good starting dosage.
Finally, make sure to be running a proper PCT after finishing the cycle. The better the PCT, the more gains you will be able to keep, and the smoother will be the recovery. The ideal PCT protocol is the perfect PCT as described here - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Then you also need to use an AI from the first day of the cycle. Aromasin at 10 mgs EOD would be the best choice. Finally, deca will increase prolactin levels, so you need to include cabergoline into the cycle, also from the first day of the cycle. 0.25 mgs EOD is a good starting dosage.
Finally, make sure to be running a proper PCT after finishing the cycle. The better the PCT, the more gains you will be able to keep, and the smoother will be the recovery. The ideal PCT protocol is the perfect PCT as described here - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
I would like to see you use proviron with deca to offset DHN issues
make sure you are using a rock solid AI throughout that or it will be water retention hell. I do not see the point in using so much test. if there is any compound that you SHOULD NOT use test with it is deca. deca is 19nortestosterone, so it is just like using test with a carbon atom missing at the 19th position.. so it aromatizes 20% less. so using a high dosage of testosterone on top of it makes no sense to me
make sure you are using a rock solid AI throughout that or it will be water retention hell. I do not see the point in using so much test. if there is any compound that you SHOULD NOT use test with it is deca. deca is 19nortestosterone, so it is just like using test with a carbon atom missing at the 19th position.. so it aromatizes 20% less. so using a high dosage of testosterone on top of it makes no sense to me
If you haven't purchased these yet I would recommend aromasin instead of arimidex. It is far superior and a suicide AI. Also N2Guard will be much more effective than liv52 for your liver and other organs while running an oral steroid. Caber is definitely a must with deca.
You can't get aromasin? You should not be doing a steroid cycle to begin with then.
If you're not able to do a cycle properly, don't do it at all. You're putting your health and life on the line if you don't follow safety instructions for your cycle.
Please remember, steroids are serious drugs. Without the proper cycle aids, you are going to get into big trouble with your health, which can land you in the hospital.
It is expensive for a reason - it is the best liver supporting supplement on the market, so if you want good liver support and make sure it will stay healthy, then you need to pay for it.
As for aromasin, I would recommend you to use it instead of arimidex for the following reasons:
1. Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, so there will be no estrogen rebound once you stop taking it. Meanwhile, this estrogen rebound is well possible with arimidex, since it is not a suicide AI.
2. Arimidex will stress your lipids by increasing the levels of LDL cholesterol (the bad one), whilst aromasin will increase the levels of HDL (the good cholesterol).
3. Aromasin will increase your IGF-1 production by up to 25%, which is very good for muscle growth and recovery, which is not the case with arimidex.
Proviron is the best way of preventing deca dick. If your bedroom does not bother you, then you can skip proviron.
If you don't want to spend the money on N2Guard then just drop the dbol. Arimidex can work but it is not nearly as good as aromasin. Lev points out the reasons why.
If I were you, I would keep dbol at 50mgs the whole time.
Also, dont forget to add aromasin + cabergoline, otherwise you might be looking for trouble
You can legally order aromasin as a research chemical liquid from ag-guys.com
Why can't you get it?
You can use arimidex instead if you wish but you NEED to run an AI with your cycle.
Not running an AI with your cycle is asking for side effects like gyno
I would cut them in half and dose 12.5mg EOD as a starting point. You should get mid cycle bloods and you will be able to see how that dose is working for you.
