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Mangaas

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I was recentely having an argument with a buddy of mine.

We were talking about steroids usage among the pro bodybuilders.

We all know that they take steroids, but he went as far as to say that they ALL take some sort of steroid / androgen, insulin, or growth hormone.

Now, I understand that a lot of these guys are on juice and whatnot, but not ALL of those Pro bodybuilders in the IFBB can take steroids.

I mean, they test for steroids right? So this would filter out the people taking illegal substances. Look at the top guys, obviously a lot of those guys are on juice, but some of them had to have gotten there completely natural, right?

He says: "all, of them take steroids/androgens" and I say "Some of them have reached the pro level purely by genetics." Does anybody know the name of a pro bodybuilder(IFBB) who's completely natural?

I just wanna burn my friend with some info and opinions from people who are "in the know"

thnks.
 
I know we will never know. But I would lean towards them all using something. I think this day in age they know they have to.
 
i probley have the biggest NATURAL friends that anyone here could possible think of, but any bodybuilder holding a pro card, has juiced. period.
 
halfaclue said:
they do not test for steroids.
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The IFBB does test but (and this is second hand it may not be exact) all the competators know at least 9 months in advance when the testing date will be. Im fairly new to this game but even I could work around a 9 month window.
 
FYI mangaas. Even so called natural BB's use gear like HCG, T-3, Clen, and Slin. IMO a natural BB's would take nothing more than a multivitamin. Means Natural to me.
 
Good friend of mine is a natural 260 solid 6% BF and is the biggest leanest natural BB I know. He has the best genetics I have ever seen. After knowing him I honestly believe there is absolutely no way that anyone holding a pro card could have done it without some help.
 
best thread ever!!!! l pro bbers are natural but brad pit sure fucking juiced!!!!!
all pros not only juice, but use GH, slin, GHB, t3, DNP, get inplants, use synthol, LIPO, cocaine, E, pot, you name it they do it.
 
satchboogie said:
just like the sun rises and sets each day, pros use steroids!
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Amen! Nuff said.
 
90% of my gym is on roids and your telling me ifbb and npc guys are not.lol

I am doing a contest now and am telling you if you want to keep size and loose fat you need help!!!

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They all juice, some use mass quantities... and some due to superior genetics use far less. I don't think it would be possible in todays bodybuilding scene for a 100% natural competitor to qualify for the Olympia. If there has been one, please let me know.
 
alltraps said:
best thread ever!!!! l pro bbers are natural but brad pit sure fucking juiced!!!!!
all pros not only juice, but use GH, slin, GHB, t3, DNP, get inplants, use synthol, LIPO, cocaine, E, pot, you name it they do it.
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Do they drink beer?
 
lol actually that is funny. I am friends with 1 pro and several top npc's and they will all do about everything BUT drink. Weird huu??

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concordsize said:
lol actually that is funny. I am friends with 1 pro and several top npc's and they will all do about everything BUT drink. Weird huu??

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LoL. Sounds like a guy I know. 19 inch arms (19years old), won't drink a sip, but does a line of coke like nothing.

I can't imagine where he would be if he wasn't into the sniff-sniff stuff.
 
I am sick of these guys that are like. "I'm all natural. I have 13 creatine shakes, 26 protein shakes, amino acids, MRP'S, weight gain etc etc. but I am all natural. I don't juice." So you eat so much protein it is like eating 15 steaks a day. Real fucking natural ass wipe. Eating 1/4 of a cow per day is real natural. Get out of my squat rack.
 
Cornobbled said:
I am sick of these guys that are like. "I'm all natural. I have 13 creatine shakes, 26 protein shakes, amino acids, MRP'S, weight gain etc etc. but I am all natural. I don't juice." So you eat so much protein it is like eating 15 steaks a day. Real fucking natural ass wipe. Eating 1/4 of a cow per day is real natural. Get out of my squat rack.
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lol! Amen!
 
i once read something about this. the IFBB does not want to test because the big freaky guys are the ones that draw the crowds and move products in the ads.

in the late 80s, i think, there was a period where BBs were being tested heavily for AAS which discouraged some pros from using. what happened? the crowds at shows complained and attendance fell. people WANT to see the freaky big guys.
 
Cornobbled said:
I am sick of these guys that are like. "I'm all natural. I have 13 creatine shakes, 26 protein shakes, amino acids, MRP'S, weight gain etc etc. but I am all natural. I don't juice." So you eat so much protein it is like eating 15 steaks a day. Real fucking natural ass wipe. Eating 1/4 of a cow per day is real natural. Get out of my squat rack.
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One of the funniest cases is Jean Claude Van Damme. I guess he has Gynecomastia naturally and deloped it in his late 20's. LOL
 
whatever happened to Jean Claude VD? is he still an actor? there were always rumors flying around about his cocaine use, four marriages, and that he is secretly gay and HIV positive. he was always such a jerk.
 
pro bodybuilders drop like flies..its quite sad. all that for 100,000 dollars top prize money. that prize money went towards FOOD GEAR SUPPLEMENTS all year. bodybuilding is DEAD
 
glennds said:
whatever happened to Jean Claude VD? is he still an actor? there were always rumors flying around about his cocaine use, four marriages, and that he is secretly gay and HIV positive. he was always such a jerk.
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I believe he is making low buget films through his own production company now. There is definitely some good money to made there strictly through video distribution.

Even though the guy may have some problems, I still enjoyed some of his earlier films. Especially, Bloodsport.
 
I am all for giving the people the benefit of the doubt, and you can get real big without gear, as long as you have the genetics, but i don't see how anyone could get remotely into the shape these guys do without boatloads of gear, dieting down to 3% and maintaining that much muscle is without a doubt impossible without a ton of shit. I beleive the ifbb tests for lasix and cocaine. It used to be clen, lasix and cocaine, but they dropped the clen i beleive. This is all something i have read, so don't quote the drug testing on part.
 
i knew before i clicked this thread that this will be a post number 1 for someone

also they only test for a diuretics and even at that they give you a list of the diuretics they test for and u can use others
 
concordsize said:
lol actually that is funny. I am friends with 1 pro and several top npc's and they will all do about everything BUT drink. Weird huu??

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Drinking = Bad Calories.

There are a lot of party people who will not drink a sip, but will pop Xtc like candy and do rail after rail. Most of the big guys love G. They actually beleive it helps them stay lean.

A lot of the heavier steroid users are trying to compensate for the loss of LBM that comes with partying hard.

I think that's where a lot of the 5grams and up of AS a week initially came from.

MDMA + Cocaine + Extreme Steroid Use + GHB for sleep = Large ripped physique (as well as about 20-25 years off your life.)
 
Im sorry I even mentioned Ken Jones. The guy is a total joke! Sadly I have met him also. Made me want to puke.Told me I can't drink coffee and have to eat liver. He went to every gym in my area boasting about being a pro and asking to work out for free. My gym owner said sure as long as you give me some autographed photos to hang. He never sent them. He's kinda a running joke at MuscleMayhem.lol
 
Well, if you guys are so sure that EVERY pro uses juice, or some other androgen, what proof can your give me?

I mean, medical evidence that EVERY pro bodybuilder uses juice?

I think that a blanket statement that EVERY single pro uses juice is just ignorant. How can you guys be so sure that EVERYone of them Pro's uses all these drugs?

I can understand that most of them do, but it would be impossible to prove to me that EVERY single one of them uses. Especially pro's, who are tested.
 
Your right it would be impossible, and guess what, there is no need to do it, if you see a chick that has huge tits and a scar from her breast implants you already know her tits are fake, there is no need to tie her up, take her to the doctor, just to have him prove that they are because one of your buddies thought they were real.
 
Here is a thought - WHO CARES??? I could really give two rats asses what pros do. I'm REALLY more concerned about my own performance, health and body. I guess I'm mildly interested in the "pros", but jeez, EVERYONE is different... so even if I knew EXACTLY what "they" (pick your fav - Arnold etc etc) did to get so large, it probably would have no bearing on my body. Get out there and train, eat well and see what happens. Don't worry about anyone else - they won't help YOU.
 
Every Pro Juices!
 
Mangaas said:
Well, if you guys are so sure that EVERY pro uses juice, or some other androgen, what proof can your give me?

I mean, medical evidence that EVERY pro bodybuilder uses juice?

I think that a blanket statement that EVERY single pro uses juice is just ignorant. How can you guys be so sure that EVERYone of them Pro's uses all these drugs?

I can understand that most of them do, but it would be impossible to prove to me that EVERY single one of them uses. Especially pro's, who are tested.
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Hey BRO, I got news for ya. You're on CRACK! And who ever told you the pros get tested must have been on the same shit. The only thing the pros get tested for is coke and diuretics.

later
 
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