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there is a huge guy at the gym but he is not strong !!

StRoNg_WoN said:
Size, and strength do NOT directly corrilate...

Very true. Look at his form also. I bet that it is very strict and slow, especially on the negative. Depending on your form and how fast your movements are can have a huge impact on the weights you lift. Also see how many reps he is doing. Maybe he is doing a type of high volume training.

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I'm starting to wonder about the strength equals mass stuff. AAP doesn't buy into it, and he is huge and lean.

Back in the old days, the guys would do more volume, and less weight, BUT they would have 'power' days. Days when they would do heavy deads, squat, bench. But that wasn't the norm.
 
maybe this huge guy is strong, if he wants to be. But choses not to use heavy weights. Just because he is big and lifts light weights doesn`t make him weak.
 
stonecold54 strength has much more to do with other factors than muscle size. I have seen skinny guys outlift big guys because of CNS superiority, muscle tendon attacment makes a difference. ligament attachment makes a difference. Bone length makes a difference-the farther away a weight is from a fulcrum or rotating joint the heavier the weight is. so yes it is possible to be big without being super strong. muscle growth is dependent on quality contraction not merely moving a weight from point A to point B.


Excellent answer.
 
you would imagine that size=strength every time. but i have seen a guy who used to juice his ass off and is now around 6ft 220 who struggles to bench 200! i have never been able to understand this. nowadays the guy hardly works out and he has a rather high bf%... so i don't know :confused:
but on the other hand have u seen many monstrous olympic lifters?
 
Just because he doesn't lift "heavy" weights doesn't necessarilly mean he can't. You can work with weights significantly below your max levels with proper form and get better results, and save the joints at the same time.

I'm curious to know how you determined that he is weak for his size.
 
Yeah very true on strength and size. A good example of this is me and my lifting partner. He's about 225lbs and around 5'8" the same height as me and im only 150lbs but when we do biceps day I can out lift him. I think alot of this is due to the way he trains compared to me. Ive been trying to pack on the muscle so Ive always lifted really heavy but he's trying to lean up so he does higher reps and less weight for most of his bodyparts. Its just a matter of how you train. Once he does get cut up and starts lifting heavy again he'll blow me out of the water on the amount of weight he lifts.
 
He may be like me....may be injured and recovering...

I had a bad rotator cuff since February 2003.

I had tried everything ice, heat, dmso, ibuprofen, celebrex, Deca,
training only one side of the body on a smith for chest shoulders,
massage, ART, phyusical therpy etc.
Nothing really helped it as it continued to hurt once I got over 330.

3 months ago I started doing super slow controlled reps with 1 minute rest between sets with reduced weight barely above 315..
4 secs to lower 1 sec pause explode up 1 sec pause lower again.
Your weight will drop after a couple of sets super slow and minute rest between sets.

You know the result? increased density and thickness regained in the chest and shoulders..and the shoulder is pain free for the most part so I am sticking with the light weights.
 
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